At one time I had both in my garden, next to each other. MB blooms are a little tighter then S. The blooms on at least half of S always looked split. The foliage on S is what I had a problem. I didn't mind the fact that the foliage draped down instead of flushing out like 99% of roses. It was different and unique. I just couldn't keep the black spot off of it and like I said, I spray. After 4 years of fighting with it, I pulled it and now have 2 MB. I'm very happy with both bush's of MB.

Where do you garden, Ken?

Thank you Ken. I looked Sidonie up more carefully, lots of BS. I will stay with MB. Where did you get your MB?

Roses Unlimited. I moved it into a 3 gal pot for a solid year to grow more roots, then put it into the ground.

monarda---I garden in N.E. GA. at the feet of the Smoky MNTS.