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Help with Exterior home design

6 years ago

Renovating a midcentury modern home in Miami and need advise on the front elevation. The roof to the far left of the home will need to be raised. We welcome any design ideas. Thank you


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  • 6 years ago

    What do you mean by "need to be raised"? Are you adding a floor, or is the roof structurally unsound, or... ?

  • 6 years ago

    We currently have flat roof on that end of the house and it is leaking, and we are also raising the floor to level the whole house floor. So both I guess. This house is midcentury ugly and in need of much beautification! Appreciate any help we can get.

  • 6 years ago

    Bump.

  • 6 years ago

    Bump

  • 6 years ago

    Are you working with an architect already or are you in the gathering-ideas stage? Do you have a budget range in mind?

    I'm not familiar with hurricane-related building codes in Miami. Do they require a full new roof that's up to current code if you change part of it?

  • 6 years ago

    We are looking for ideas and need to hire a contractor to execute a complete remodel of the interior and update the exterior of the home.


    We have plans that were drawn up by an engineer but unfortunately, to save money we did not hire an architect; as a result we are not completely happy with the design.

    Below is what was proposed.


    To answer your question, we can change part of the roof and are not required to change all of it. Currently the roof is tar (I think).


    The budget for the exterior of the home including raising the roof and fixing the back of the home is estimated at approximately $50,000 but this may change depending on how much completing the interior cost.


    Thank you for you time. Seeking any design ideas or help we can get. This renovation has been quite the challenge.



  • 6 years ago

    A complete remodel like this would benefit from a professional architect. In my area, flat roofs are not used much because high winds rip them off (there's nothing like finding your roof on your front lawn). If there are remodelled houses in your area, take a drive around or use google streetview for armchair viewing. Then talk to the neighbors for referrals.


    I suggest a pitched roof. Here are some nice illustrations of various roof types: https://www.roofcostestimator.com/top-15-roof-types-and-their-pros-cons/


  • 6 years ago

    Yes. I agree. We are definitely going with a pitched roof. The rest of the the facade also needs help. Not sure what can be done to mark this house less ugly. Would welcome any ideas about finishes and textures.

    Thanks

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    It would ruin the value of this house to try to convert its low mid century horizontal vibe yo something else. Plus it’s going to be incredibly expensive to try to change it to something it isn’t.


    Hire an architect. Any 500K ”complete redo” would be insane without professional design advice.

  • 6 years ago

    As a general rule, engineers are not designers and not architects.

    Don't go down this road with the engineer's "design". As the others have said, get an architect. You can have one work with you remotely too.

    You are in Miami area so the roof is a critical component for insurance and for design aesthetics. Adding a gable roof has consequences in our hurricane prone area. Work with an architect to save yourself time, money and heartache.

  • PRO
    6 years ago
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    I was recently watched Fixer Upper "the Cargo ship house". I like their idea of exterior. https://magnolia.com/our-show/episode-01-the-cargo-ship-house/


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  • 6 years ago

    Wow. Thanks for all the comments. Unfortunately the budget is not 500,000. It’s $50,000-$60,000. The whole budget for inside and out will bring us to over $200,000. The reason we did not use an architect was because they were charging $10,000. I thought that was very expensive.

  • 6 years ago

    I beginning to agree with a prior post that we should embrace the midcentury look of the home and try to update it keeping with that style.

    If anyone has any suggestion on Architect that work well with mid entry style or ideas on what is fair pricing for and architect i would greatly appreciate it.
    Thanks

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    There's nothing more expensive than proceeding with the engineer's design you say you're unhappy with. A $10000 architect's fee is in the ballpark, though maybe not yours. They're highly skilled professionals. It's hard to understand why you think you'll like the actual execution of the design if you don't like the design now. Then you'll be really stuck. Asking internet strangers to throw out ideas to add on or subtract from the engineer's design you don't like will give you what's called a "remuddle." Just put "midcentury flat-roofed house" into your Houzz search box, and you'll see dozens of great houses that look like yours.


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    Your midcentury house isn't ugly at all but you seem to have bought a house in a style you basically don't like. Is there any reason you can't just fix the existing roof and do a one-story addition in back and put your entire budget into that?

  • 6 years ago
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    That new roof makes no sense. You're asking for water problems again if you do that.

    The left side of that new roof (as far as I can see) abuts into the wall that supports the center section of the roof. Rain (especially the amounts you can get in Florida) will run down that roof and slam into the wall that supports the middle section of the roof. In order to get it to flow to the front or back of the house and drain away, there will need to be additional framing to add a slope where there isn't one (a 'cricket'). And that seam with the wall is ripe for leaks; at best it will be a periodic maintenance issue, at worst, a serious problem.

    Water should always flow toward the edge of a building--never toward the center. And asking it to change directions 90 degrees as it flows in a monsoon downpour is a recipe for disaster.

    That roof has no business being there. If it were higher and overhung the lower roof, it would be more secure. But in neither case would it look right. Keep all the roofs running in the same axis as the other peaks.

  • 6 years ago

    Agree with Tatts , pulse I think your house could benefit from prettier Windows .., front door ...but otherwise your house is not ugly !

  • PRO
    6 years ago
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    I have a MCM ranch and IMO raising the roof from the original almost flat one compltely changes what I love about the house. Ours has large overhangs so protects the house from the hot summer sun but allows the heat from the sun in in the winter . We added alrge windows and patio doors to the back of ours to give it a more open feel since I love the ability to look right through the space



  • 6 years ago

    That’s lovely. Our window set up is very similar to yours. We also have an over hangs in the front of the house. I love the exposed rafters but they need to be updated.

  • 6 years ago

    Following!! I want to do an update as well! Here are some pics I love, last one is a neighbor








  • 6 years ago
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    Your house is lovely! Changing it to look like that drawing is gonna make it plain vanilla. It might actually REDUCE its value.

    That driveway is peachy keen! Semi-circle, right? Who gets to drive up to their house like that these days unless they have a million $$$?

    I think you could make the middle part more compelling and make a more interesting landscape.

    If you're re-tarring the roof, you might want to consult a solar specialist to see if it's budget-friendly to put in a roof that's purpose-built for solar panels and then include the solar in your budget instead of changing the roofline. That'll save you cash flow in utility bills.

  • 6 years ago

    I am sold. We will keep the MCM look! I love the pictures posted above. Thanks for sending those!!! I need to translate that look to our house. Having the house off balanced is a bit of a challenge.

  • 6 years ago

    $50,000. will not go far if you remodel the roof. You will need all new electric, possibly plumbing, and hvac.

  • 6 years ago
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    Pink or light yellow... Aqua? That exterior color is problematic: neither fresh nor neutral.

    However, here's the mustard, though this one's MORE mustardy:


    Oliver Ave · More Info


    These windows might work for you, too. How about this roofline if you want to change your roof?

  • 6 years ago
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    you have a very cool style home. don't try and change it! Enhance it. MCM style homes are all the rage, again! take advantage of it and do some great landscaping and colors.




    Notice the circular driveway here. have fun with it! you don't have to go quite this bright on the house color, but it is florida!


    don't be afraid of bold colors. The colors you have now are just blah! brighten it up


    If I had that house, I'd be looking a combo of these colors























  • 6 years ago

    Hi Beth H. Happy Thanksgiving to you. Thank you so much for those ideas. That looks beautiful!! I guess part of the problem is that I am having a hard time figuring out how to extrapolate those ideas and apply them to our house. I do need to raise the roof. Maybe we need to go back to the drawing board and change the design but that means we have to go back to an engineer and the get the city to approve new plans. This is so stressful and everything coast mo money mo money mo money!!!! That is especially difficult when the budget is tight. We have around $100,000 left to finish the whole project. We have already spent $150,000 redoing half of the interior.

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