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Off center DR pendant light - What to do?

6 years ago

As you can see from the pics below, the pendant light over the dining table is off centre for both the length (off by ~ 20") and the width (off by ~ 3-4"). Although it is centered with the 4 corner pot lights. In this modern open concept condo, this disconnect really stands out.


It is an expensive matter to have to light & driver moved, and ceiling patched. Someone had suggested I swag the light over ( since there is excess cord length stuffed in the canopy. But I am concerned that that will not look contemporary. Is there a way to make it look sympatico?


Also fyi, the ceilings are just under 8' - so not high.





Suggestions? Thoughts?


Comments (26)

  • 6 years ago

    It's called swagging or using a swag hook. you will have to check and see if there is extra cord up in the mounting plate, or you may have to replace it to get one with a longer cord. very simple fix. Otherwise call an electrician and have him move the box.

    Carolyn thanked RL Relocation LLC
  • 6 years ago

    There are fixtures with a long "box" on the ceiling that have two cables that support a long, linear light. That would solve one direction but not the other.

    Carolyn thanked Seabornman
  • 6 years ago

    Or even a pendant strip with two cable supports. Only one needs electrical.

    Carolyn thanked Seabornman
  • 6 years ago

    So RL Relocation.... thanks for your thoughts. AS mentioned in my post, I have enough extra cord stuffed in the ceiling canopy, that it could be swagged. My concern is, how do I keep it looking modern. Swagging is typically a casual / boho / country look. Is there an ultra modern ceiling clip you have seen that might e in keeping with the condo style?


  • 6 years ago
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    Leave it as is--not a big deal in the great scheme of things. It's actually centered going the long way! (Confession: I have an uncentered major pendant light, and I just decided not to notice it! (Mine looks as if it's in its own orbit over the dining table.) Honestly, I don't want to spend the $300-400 minimum to cut into the ceiling, relocate the light, get the electrical worked out. Swagging calls more attention to it IMO. Your place looks fabulous BTW.

    Carolyn thanked housegal200
  • 6 years ago

    I agree with housegal. My chandelier is also off center and I like it. A swag will bring more attention to it.

    Carolyn thanked ilikefriday
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Do not swag the light, please. It sends one message: “I’m too cheap to have this thing moved.” Get a smaller table (a four-seater, max) that can be centered under the fixture and remove or relocate the sideboard. You have a small dining area that’s too congested at the moment.

    Carolyn thanked Sammy
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    and especially if the box stays where it is and the light is swagged, it kind of destroys the design of the light fixture, like one part is here and one part is there. I had that problem with mine, didn't like it, had it moved but instead of redoing the ceiling we just put a blank electrical cover over the old box which looks ok to me, much less aggravating that an off centre fixture or swag.

    By the way love your light fixture, art, dining table and chairs, a lovely room!

    Carolyn thanked doods
  • 6 years ago

    Do some measuring and see how large a shallow square box you'd need to both have the box centered and cover the original box from the off center fixture.


    After removing the overhead fixture you have, frame a square that size attached to the ceiling, adding a cross piece so you can attach a new electric box for a new overhead fixture in the center of that framing so you can hang your new fixture in the center of the room after attaching the necessary wiring and enclosing the box.


    Alternately, you could frame a larger box to be centered on the ceiling the size of the table enabling you to put one centered light over the table or a pair of lights.


    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/487162884680389905/



    Carolyn thanked suezbell
  • 6 years ago

    Nice room. I’d either ignore it, or pay an electrician to move it. No swag.

    Carolyn thanked flopsycat1
  • 6 years ago

    That would drive me insane...I had my husband move a chandelier ten inches. You can buy dry wall patch and a can of texture- if you take your time with the repair no one will notice and it will blend nicely. If you are not handy pay an electrician- about $400 here in N. Cal. (Just had a friend pay for this exact type of job.).

    Carolyn thanked Daisy S
  • 6 years ago

    Seabornman. Thanks for your suggestions. So to be clear you are suggesting buying a new fixture that has a rectangular shape.

  • 6 years ago

    Two approaches shown. Quite a few styles available. I didn't think of it till you asked but you could get a surface mount rectangular fixture and place it exactly over the table.

    Carolyn thanked Seabornman
  • 6 years ago

    NOT TRUE! you can do a beautifully neat swag here with a little bit of cord cover or even an exposed conduit look. you can actually use the light as it is and "drag" a little bit of lamp wire to the actual outlet, and put a white plate over the physical location.....



    Carolyn thanked RL Relocation LLC
  • 6 years ago

    Wow, is that ugly. If I had a dog he'd bark at that....

  • 6 years ago
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    Agree with Seabornman. Not a pro -the plate I put on to cover the old box is small, round, and flat against the ceiling, and wiring is inside ceiling so you don't see it.

  • 6 years ago

    So if its not possible to dig into the ceiling then what?

  • 6 years ago

    The reason they leave the extra wire in the ceiling is to make it possible to swag it to where you need it...if you decide to get a new table some day it will be easily moveable to accommodate a different table...i think a swag is sort of graceful especially on a minimal fixture...if you want to add more interest there are so many beautiful chain replacement options...but as is ....it is sleek and simple...also good

    Carolyn thanked btydrvn
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I think the problem with the current setup is that it does not look intentional because the chandelier is off center but the flower is centered. If you simply moved the flower to off center, the light would look like you want it to be in that spot as a spotlight on the flower. I have this exact same thing going on with my dining table and chandelier. In my case I have the chandelier at one end of the table and a tall vase at the other end.


    My eye leans towards asymmetry. I find it more appealing in general.



    Carolyn thanked ilikefriday
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you all so much for your thoughts.


    I do need to keep the sideboard where it is. However, I forgot to mention that I will be painting it the same colour as the wall, and will be back painting the glass in the doors to hided the stuff inside. The room will look less cramped and busy.


    I tried moving the table to be centered under the light, and taking away the end chairs to do so. It looks quite crammed down at one end of the area when I do that. So I don't think I will do that.


    In reading your comments, I am reminded that I need to keep access to the current location (per my original electrician). So I will need to cover with an electrical plate, and not patch it to cover over.


    I think I will pay to have it moved in order to keep the simple, clean minimalist lines of the light fixture.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Have you ever thought of two smaller pendant lights over the table? Add another box, install matching pendants and no one will ever know that the light was off-center.


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    Carolyn thanked Carolina Kitchen & Bath
  • 6 years ago

    Doods….. Thanks for the compliments. I made over the dining room table and chairs myself.


    The whole condo reno and decorate has taken me quite some time. Members of Houzz, like yourself, have been very helpful with advice throughout the process. Likely in January I will post some before and after pics.

  • 6 years ago

    Carolina.....I had thought of using 2 pendants at one point, but concerned it blocks the art more, and might look too busy in my small space.


  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Good job Carolyn, I love your decor, those chairs are wonderful, especially with the glass table! I'm not a pro, but enjoy this site, and certainly the pro's on here are wonderful to share their expertise with us all.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    That's why you'd want to pick something smaller. Go to a lighting shop, not a big box lighting department, but a store where they have designers that help you make selections and figure this stuff out. Having another professional perspective helps. There are many talented pros here, but talk to one who is an expert in lighting design.

    Carolyn thanked Carolina Kitchen & Bath