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Minimum ovens and burners

6 years ago

I'm in the beginning stages of planning a kitchen remodel and I'm having a hard time figuring out how many burners and ovens I should plan for. I feel strongly about not doing more than necessary, but I don't want to realize later on that I should have planned for more.


I like to cook and bake and I have 4 children between the ages of 9 months and 10 years. Right now I have a 30" gas oven with 4 burners and I run out of space in the oven about once a week, but not by much. I run out of burner space less often and if I utilize my instant pot I can manage.


If I don't add any burners or ovens to the remodel, am I desperately going to wish I had more when I have several teenagers in the house? Or could I get by with getting a countertop oven?


If I do get 2 ovens, should I get 2 different sizes like in a 48" range, or a range with one wall oven, or a cook top and 2 wall ovens?


Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Comments (19)

  • 6 years ago

    I would get a 30 inch stove with oven and 4 burners and an additional wall oven since you seem to run out of oven space. I have 4 burners and never have all 4 going at once, when I see 6 or 8 burners I think I’d flip out if I had to monitor 8 burners at once! Really!

  • 6 years ago

    Visualize or Plan a meal for 12-20 people. A Holiday Meal for your 6, plus friends and family.

    What is on your menu? and how/where will you prepare the menu items.

    Consider future family, teenagers with friends and community events.

    Table top electric appliances, and outdoor propane appliance are the friend of those who do not have the builtins to cook for groups.

    Your choice: excess capacity for now, grow/use into it, then become the homecoming/holiday house because you can feed everyone.


  • 6 years ago

    I have a 30" gas range and a 24" wall oven (it's a speed oven, but is mostly used for regular oven things). This has worked out well for us. We usually use the wall oven because it preheats much faster but the big one gets use as well. Sometimes we even use both!


    You should be fixing the flaws in your old kitchen. Looks like one of the flaws is having only one oven. So get two. How to achieve that is up to you though.


    Cooktop and double wall oven is very sensible and easier to clean. It'll probably cost more but it's more ergonomic. It is possible to injure oneself by pulling a very large turkey out of a low range oven. :)

  • 6 years ago

    My suggestion is 5 burner range top and 2 wall ovens.

  • 6 years ago

    Are you a baker or do you think your kids might like to do that someday? 2 full size ovens, a micro and at least 5 burners would be my vote.

  • 6 years ago

    I cook for six people every night. I went with a 36" range which gave my 5 burners and an oversize oven. I also added a wall oven and a speed oven. At Thanksgiving every oven and burner was used plus the Instant Pot. That being said, I host two meals on Thanksgiving and the turkey was 39.7 lbs.

    Having all those cooking options made it so much easier. I smiled for days before and after Thanksgiving. I'm hosting a 9 course wine dinner for 12 on Christmas Eve and I can't wait to cook!

  • 6 years ago

    Do you have room for a separate oven stack? If space is no problem, I'd consider a 36" range top or better yet a 36" induction cooktop, a 30" convection oven and a CSO oven. That should more than cover you.

  • 6 years ago

    36" range and a combination wall oven or a 36" cooktop and double wall ovens. I never thought I would run all five hobs on my cooktop at once, however last Christmas I did just that and it is not unusual for me to run four at a time with everyday cooking. Better to have more and not need it than the other way around.

  • 6 years ago

    A friend has a 5-burner range top (one is simmer only) and a double oven. She entertains weekly, so both ovens get used. The range top usually has at least 3 going when I'm there. There is also a microwave and countertop cookers.

  • 6 years ago

    Double wall ovens don't cost that much more than single ones. I have 4 kids ages 10-16 and our cooking needs have grown over time. I feel that two ovens is necessary even if I only need them a couple of times a month :) Same goes for a cooktop. I feel so crowded on a 30" cooktop. Even if I'm not using one of the 36"'s six burners, it's nice to have a landing spot if I need to move pans around. And it's heavenly if I need an extra burner to actually have one :)


    Of course, you can make do with other setups (Instant Pots, portable cooking elements, toaster ovens, etc.) but having the right tools in place from the get-go makes cooking a lot more enjoyable, imho.


  • 6 years ago

    I think it really depends on how each individual cooks. I opted for 4 burners (30” cooktop) and never need more, not even at holidays. Ovens are a totally different story. I have two full sized wall ovens and especially since I like to bake am very happy with that choice - and yes, used both at Thanksgiving! (Plus, for me another factor was counter space. My kitchen is fairly small and I needed the counter space that a 36” or 48” stove would have taken up as well as the wall space that a larger hood would have required.)

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks everyone. I appreciate the input. I feel better about going for 2 ovens! :-)

    Now I just have to figure out what types - I'm not familiar with speed ovens and I've never used convection but I'm intrigued.


    Maybe this is a question for another post, but what about a 48" range? It seems like the consensus is that a 30" or 36" range with a wall oven OR a cook top with double wall ovens is preferred.

  • 6 years ago
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    You asked about what was necessary, erring on the conservative side. Large, 48" ranges are considered wasteful/luxurious for the overkill on hobs, and extra oven being puny in some, but not all cases. If you want a 48" range, and I totally get the appeal, consider a Blue Star. Their small oven is pretty roomy. There are many threads extolling its virtues, simple gas range, few or no electronics, open burners, cast iron grates. Downside is you need serious venting.

    I have a 36" induction cooktop, two convection wall ovens and a combi steam oven, along with four kiddos. I like to entertain and play in the kitchen with my boys, so I get a lot of use out of all my appliances, especially the CSO. Venting needs with induction are lower than with a powerful gas range.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Large ranges are very expensive and have all sorts of downsides. They take up a lot of space. They have complex venting needs that can easily cost more than the range. You lose valuable upper cabinet space. And it gets more difficult to figure out where to put counter tops to safely place items while cooking. That's why most people on Houzz will tell you to get only as many cooktop hobs as you actually need, and to install wall ovens for the rest.

    It takes a little getting used to, but I find I have gotten much more efficient in my cooking ever since I started using my ovens in favor of my cooktop hobs. I talked to professional chefs and they pretty much confirmed that this is the way to go.

    We now have a 30" gas range with a huge oven (Bluestar is famous for having 30" ranges that fit full commercial cookie sheets). But we also have two smaller 24" wall ovens. One of them is a CSO. That's the work-horse in our kitchen. It's expensive. But if it fits your budget, then I promise you'll love it. The other one is a SpeedOven. We bought it pretty much for the same reason @K D suggested. It takes up the same space as a microwave, but it gives us both microwave and oven.

    The largest meal I have cooked in this kitchen was a full lunch with appetizer, choice of two main courses, several sides, fresh bread, and dessert for 100+ people. Took some planning, but worked great. Our recent Thanksgiving meal was much simpler, but it still involved more than a dozen different dishes. Used all of the ovens and two of my hobs. BTW a combination steam oven also can do double duty as a warming drawer pretty easily. So, we do use it for that purpose while cooking larger meals.

  • 6 years ago

    what I miss most in my current kitchen is a warming drawer, or a true second oven. I have a 30 inch, 4 burner induction cooktop, plus a microwave/wall oven combo. if you have room for two ovens, plus a microwave, go for it . Or a range, and a combo like mine.

    My house is the family party house. Dinners for 12 to 40. Four burners are fine, but " keep warm " space is often coolers used as warm storage, as I like to have most everything complete before company arrives . I have been thinking about buying a Cambro catering box lately, to hold sheet pans with side dishes ready, and ditch my cooler warmers.

  • 6 years ago

    In my opinion if you have the room then a 36" rangetop with 6 burners and double ovens. if you have more room then that and $$ then a 48" rangetop adding a griddle. I have the 36" and double wall ovens and made sure my kitchen was big enough for them. I love being able to do whatever whenever and not have to "plan" things out. Of course holidays or big dinners are different but still much easier.

  • 6 years ago

    I cook all the time, entertain, do at least 2 holidays a year for the whole extended family and have teens who travel in hungry packs. I love, love, love my gas 36 inch cooktop (5 burners) and two 30-inch electric convection wall ovens. I don’t use the convection feature exclusively but it is nice to have the option. For what it’s worth, I didn’t put in a warming drawer and really haven’t regretted it.

  • 6 years ago

    @Oliviag, go get that Cambro box already. If you regularly cook for ~40 people, it'll make your life so much easier. It really takes the stress out of cooking for large groups. I don't own a box, but I have easy access for borrowing one. It's like your own portable oversized warming drawer.


    Also, it has a very convenient standard size. Nice when buying accessories from commercial restaurant supply places.