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m with your Mom on this one. I smell a moldy mess in the future. How could it dose correctly taking into account water hardness, the amount of dirt/body soil and load size? It's not that much work to measure detergent.

Does it give you the option of not using the feature?

MonicaKM_GW, how long do you typically keep a bottle of detergent until it's fully used-up? Does it develop an odor in the bottle? If not, why do you believe an odor would develop directly in the supply in the GE dispenser tank? Odor in a frontloader develops from the residue of detergent combined with water minerals (if any) and laundry soils.

BeagleNC, these auto-dispensers typically have a user adjustment for the concentration of the detergent formula and some may have a provision for water hardness. The machine varies the dosage based on those settings and the load size it senses. Perhaps they add detergent in multiple "injections" accordingly as the water fill level progresses. Auto-dispensers are not required to be used, and work only with liquid detergents so can't be used with powders.

"How could it dose correctly taking into account water hardness, the amount of dirt/body soil and load size? It's not that much work to measure detergent."

While dadoes makes good points, I agree with beaglenc. I often have to mentally calculate size of load and level of dirty in each laundry load. There is no way a machine can do that. And I still end up overdosing, from time to time. (ugh!)

Lately, 1/4 of the detergent mfr's recommended dose has been the sweet spot because it is winter, so no sweat, sunscreen, yard work dirt, etc., to get out of our clothing.

dadeos, I couldn't tell you how long it takes for me to go thru a 75oz bottle of Persil but not long enough for it to go bad. I don't know, it's just a feeling and part of that feeling comes from front load horror stories and my "just because it's a new idea/feature doesn't make it a good new idea/feature" mentality. I'm too used to judging detergent needs based on what I'm washing and how dirty it is or isn't and load size. I may reconsider. Would be nice to skip that step.

My Whirlpool washer (purchased May 2019) has that feature but I haven't used it. I normally only use powders. I thought about using liquids, but the instructions say if you aren't going to use the 'Load n Go' feature for a while to empty it and clean it out. I do the majority of our washing on Mondays and Tuesdays so it would just sit for 5 days - time enough to clog and smell.

I use my Whirlpool Duet's Precision Dispense. NO problems with odor. I may not run a load for up to 2 weeks. It's dosage is based upon concentration of the detergent as well as load size, weight, soil level, cycle, and temperature. It continues to add more during the fill.

Auto-dosing has been a feature in Europe for a couple of years. By now, pretty much every manufacturer has some machines with that capability in its line-up.

What I have seen on YouTube is that some of the newer GEs (in this case the GTW725) no longer spin between the wash and the rinse. I hope yours still does.

In theory, it’s a brilliant feature, especially for compact laundry in a tight space. What I don’t like about this idea is pouring the entire bottle into the machine. That just sounds potentially problematic for a lot of reasons. I have the Miele with Twindos, which is a pair of containers you plug in, more or less. After some initial tweaks to adjust for water hardness (in my case very soft,) it’s absolutely one of the best thing that’s happened to my laundry ever. There’s one for color and one for whites, and I understand they are released in combination sometimes...I don’t overthink it. If I want to indicate more or less dirty, that’s easy, but I let the machine do the work and I’d say I use it for 90% of loads. Most of all, I like being able to pop the cartridge out. I know there are people who fill their own so they can use their own brand. I don’t think I’d want to put 75 ounces of something straight into a machine. Sounds gunky.

"What I have seen on YouTube is that some of the newer GEs (in this case the GTW725) no longer spin between the wash and the rinse."

Any idea why? Seems like it would be nice to remove as much soapy water as possible With a spin.

Our MIele FL has a couple cycles that do not spin between wash and rinse. I try to avoid them.

I have no idea - maybe to save a few gallons. Terrible idea, I think. I have seen the same thing happening with Electrolux front loaders; both the 24 as well as the 27 inch models. I could never have a washer that does not wring the suds out in between the rinses - delicate cycles aside.

Poorly rinsing GE

Wanted to mention in terms of potential gunk building up in the auto-dose washers, the models manufactured for the US market do not to my understanding have the extra loading dock for a whites detergent system like Miele does. I think that's a big difference in what may develop in the future as far as odor and mold.

The twindos system has hydrogen peroxide in their whites detergent cartridge as I understand it. This ingredient is likely the game changer (saver) with the development of mold and odors within the washing machine.

Also, many US washers do not have as hot of washes as a Miele does. Many American users are selecting hot for a wash and only getting around 100 to 111 degrees; this leads to noxious build up for many washers. Other users only select cold washes, which in many cases will cause mold/odor build up. I can foresee mold growing in these machines rather quickly. The caveat here is that if one sets the detergent dosage just right, it might reduce the medium with which mold can set up house and take over a washing machine.

Kenmore had a top-of-line toploader in 1960 with an onboard liquid detergent and softener dispenser reservoirs. Detergent held 38 oz, softener 25 oz. The user set toggle switches when starting a load for how much to dispense, 0 to 8 oz detergent, 0 or 2 or 4 oz softener.

I've used the bottle cap for years and it hasn't failed once. Highly recommended and low cost!

^^^ me too. Or a scoop for powder. It does works well!

I will say, when pods first came to my attention a number of years ago, I did buy them sometimes as I had teenagers who I was training to do their own laundry. They would spill liquid all over the place and powder got in all the wrong places, along with too much or too little detergent used. Pods seemed like a way to lessen my troubles with this. Now, I have a returnee adult child and I've put her back on Tide F&G pods because I can't reach in-between my w&d to clean up all the powder detergent she has deposited to the floor. (I'm tired of having the same discussion with an adult that we had dozens of times as a minor) I suppose an auto-dosing system would be a good choice for situations such as this...mold, or no mold...maybe.

Yeah, I don't think I'll use it. I hate not to be able to use what seems like such a helpful feature but I see a gunky mess in my future.

@Cavimum @whirlpool_trainee

I just purchased one of these GE Machine, that do not spin out the soapy water between the drain and rinse cycle. All cycles perform this way. I reached out to GE and they stated, "This model does not spin between wash and rinse. This is done to enable GE's Water Saving Rinse Technology, which provides comparable rinse performance."

I asked for additional information on how it is comparable, and they said they do not have additional information.

I feel like it was a measure to meet their energy requirements overhauling their design. That's my two cents.

So far it is cleaning well, and no soap residue.

I absolutely love my smart dispense washer. It has been the very best appliance purchase I've ever made. There is zero stench, I am not running through detergent as it is weighing my loads to dispense the right amount. My clothes smell clean and are clean. And the step of having to add detergent is completely skipped. You can disable the automatic dispensing and use different detergent if you need to. We have a grandbaby on the way and I needed to wash all of the baby items in Dreft while I had Gain in the tank. Easy peasy, just a click of a button and I can manually use the Dreft. Worth every dime I spent on the set for the washer and dryer. I've never had a reason to clean out the tank, and it's easy to refill. This is the future of washing machines...far superior to a smelly front loader. A+++ Washer.

Eric J - You have the washer I'd like to have. I have a question about the Auto Dispenser. Will it work with Persil? I think this is the best detergent money can buy but an AD would seem to have to treat all detergents as equal. If with a certain setting it would use a tbspn of Tide then it will use a tbspn of Persil or a tbspn of WalMart cheap. Is that true? Have you used different detergents without seeing a difference in results?

I, too, have used a Smart Dispenser for over a year now and it’s wonderful. The washer app has a list of detergents to choose from so it knows how much to dispense. I can also choose “less” or “more” to accommodate hard or soft water issues. Or I can do it manually. Plenty of choices. And I do use the Venting mode after I’m done with my laundry for the day and there has been no mold, mildew, or smell like I had with my LG. The only thing I don’t like is that Seventh Generation is not on the auto dispense list so I’ve changed to using 9 Elements which is on the list.