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Cleaning and Treating new IPE lumber

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

Need advise regarding cleaning and treating (using Messmers UVA +) 2x2" ipe lumber to be used as posts for an outdoor privacy screen. The lumber was pretty dirty and dusty from the warehouse when I bought it so I cleaned it using mild dish soap and water....the wood was originally a light brown, as seen in the photos. Hearing stories about problems related to staining IPE that hadn't been adequately cleaned, and based on my resuIts of test staining uncleaned and brightened wood (when I test stained with Messmers clear and red mahogany UVA + on a soap only cleaned area, both clear and red mahogany stains came out very dark, with little visible grain........as can be seen in the pics) I decided to test clean some posts using sodium percarbonate, followed with citric acid..basically what I've seen recommended......

I thought that using the percarbonate and citric acid, I'd possibly get a lighter result from staining.....what happened though, was the posts that were cleaned and brightened, initially got very splotchy, some areas were gray, some tending towards white, with dark areas interspersed - there wasn't a uniform finish, and it didn't look ready for staining.....It's been about five days since I cleaned/brightened the IPE, and today, for some reason, the percarbonate cleaned post has mostly darkened, darker than it was originally, and almost as dark as the test stained areas of the IPE. This can be seen in the pictures. Should I be concerned about staining onto splotchy cleaned and brightened wood? Should I forgo the percarbonate and citric acid and simply stain the soap washed and water rinsed wood, and accept the darkened wood.....especially given that the cleaned and brightened wood appears to, after five days or so, be evening out to a darker color than the wood was originally? Should I clean the wood and wait five days (presumably), for the wood to darken and even out in color - though, as can also be seen in the photos, where the percarbonate cleaned wood had contact with the shelfing, there were light areas,...should I just stain over the lighter areas also?



Test stain on left on soap and water washed wood. Right side is original wood with just soap and water cleaning.



Top wood is original color, bottom is percarbonate cleaned splotchy finish.



Five days after percarbonate cleaning, the wood has darkened almost to color of test stain area to left of lighter spot on wood - where the wood was resting on shelf. It appears that wherever the percarbonate cleaned wood rests on wood, it lightens in color.......can that area just be stained, or will that result in an uneven finish?

Comments (2)

  • 6 years ago

    For those interested, there is an update. The discoloring and splotchy result of cleaning with the typical cleaning and brightening chemicals used on ipe, went away after a few weeks. So for those who have had similar results using commonly suggested methods,

    you may find that waiting, in my case weeks, will sort out those issues. What I also found was, after the discoloration went away after a few weeks, there was no advange to using the chemicals found in the expensive and highly marketed ipe cleaning products, over simply cleaning with dish soap and water......In fact, just using soap and water, resulted in no discoloration, and no need to have to wait weeks for the discoloration to go away. Staining after either type of cleaning resulted in the same, satisfactory result.....using Messmers Natural UV plus.


    I could have simply stained the splotchy discolored ipe, without waiting, and perhaps that would have worked also, but the discoloring seemed to include moisture (displaced oil form within the IPE?) , or water, and I was afraid the stain wouldn't take properly......I was just dealing with dirt and grime, so in other situations, the cleaning chemicals may be more effective......


    The reason I bothered to rattle on about this, was there are quite a few accounts on- line of people using IPE or exotic wood cleaners which resulted in similar issues, and tried sanding, or other expensive means to deal with it, when, simply waiting, may have sorted out what was going on. Having thousands invested in IPE, or your deck, and using heavily promoted products which, at least superficially, seemed to not work, or even do damage, is not a comfortable place to be.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Thanks for the follow up Tone. To add, when ipe gets shipped (or really any of these types of hardwoods) the stickers that get placed in between the boards are usually of a different specie like pine or whatever old bundling your supplier has kicking around the warehouse. in Transit you can a have a small reaction between the two species and end of with "sticker marks" on the decking, but like your board that was in contact with the shelf the marks pretty quickly fade away. In the future you could just wipe down with mild soap and water and a brush... let it properly dry.... then apply whatever you wish to apply to it. Like when applying a varnish finish you could always use a tack cloth to get any remaining dust particles off the boards, but if just oiling this probably would be overkill.

    Tone Sg thanked ElementLumber.com