Please forgive me for asking you if you are in Ca , once again . Lol I have a terrible memory anymore ! If you are , there is one near by my daughter’s preschool in the Temecula rose society garden . I would be happy to take pics and tell you how big it is there . :)

Hey Lily I am.. I live close to the foothills. That would be AMAZING if you could do that and smell it if there are blooms and report back.

I absolutely will ! I go on Tuesday. I have been looking for a reason to stop anyway . I went last week but my baby had just fallen asleep and I didn’t want to wake him so I left . I’ll report back on Tuesday :)

YAY! Thank you.. I've spent the majority of January moving roses around in my garden now that they have gotten older an I realize they are in the wrong spot. So been doing some rearranging. I cant seem to find a good bush shot of Hermosa, I would like to have an idea of what Im getting into before I plant it in its "forever home" hehe.

When you say “foothills “ are you anywhere close to me ? I am so new to the state I don’t exactly know what that means . I mean there are so many mountains around .. lol oy . Did you happen to notice the moon this evening? It was spectacular!

I am North West (slightly) of you i believe. I sent you a message you can google that. Yes I saw it... I think it was called the "snow moon"

Hermosa - about 4'... definitely smaller in stature compared to many OGR'S

Thank you Lynn for sharing... how old is your Hermosa looks like you are growing in a pot too?

Hermosa as a young plant is knee to waist high and nicely rounded. Always in bloom here near Disneyland. Descanso's older Hermosa was a spectacular show as I recall, a great big foliage mass of a plant loaded down with flowers like a great bouquet. I think if you don't keep cutting it, it will just get bigger and grander every year. I'm keeping mine to four feet or so.

Lynn, I love your rose the roses I have seen on all rose boards are gorgeous! I live in Britsh Columbia, Canada! In the Okangon! In Ke So the huge dump of snow is melting, a little slice of heaven! So right now it"s1 celsus I don"t remember your way! So no roses yet! I don"t know what zone I am in! But I hope I can grow that rose, it"s gorgeous!

Oh ya we are WINE COUNTRY! And WE GROW THE BEST!

I have this coming in Spring to go withSetina and can only hope it's half as beautiful as those shown here! Fingers crossed! I love her climbing sport so I had to have the bush form also.

WOW Sheila your hermosa is beautiful. So it clearly needs a lot of room to grow and show off. Thanks for sharing. How is the fragrance? If there is none then I dont want to put it where people will stop and drop their nose into the blooms.

Your Hermosa is beautiful, Sheilah!

Hermosa should definitely be added to my new rose list!

I grew Hermosa in Las Vegas for approximately 4 years. Unfortunately, I cannot locate images of Hermosa after it was planted. Hermosa was the rose I planted in a semi-circle around our gazebo area. It was very dry- heat tolerant and trouble-free.

Thank you Lynn, Im glad it can take the heat and dry conditions.

I got mine about a year ago from ARE. I planted it in full sun but I believe it had some tree root competition and did not grow very much (perhaps 1-1.5 feet) although it did try to bloom as much as possible. I had viewed the pics on HMF which indicated with time it would grow up and spread. However, I dug it out and put it in a large pot for now. It has about 20 buds on it even though it is not in a great spot -- it seems very tough.

Sheila - in your second picture what climbing rose is that in the back? Is it self supporting or do you have it on a structure of some sort.

Haku, the rose in the back is Rosette Delizy Tea rose. It is self supporting and upright and tall, in contrast to Hermosa which is shorter and rounded. My nose is not great so I really don't know about fragrance.

Thank you Sheila, now I need to add Rosette Delizy Tea to my garden hehe.

Hi haku !! I am soo excited to report back on my findings ( this is official research right ? ) . I took the kids later in the day and of all the roses there , Hermosa was one of the few that not only looked good but was blooming or about to. I would guess they have at least ten plants of it in just one area I went to . They have it by the entrance as we’ll . The entrance Hermosas were lightly shaded by a tree. They were a nice shape , and absolutely covered in buds . Covered!! Now it does look like they got some damage from the frost we had but I do believe they’ll open just fine . You better believe I’ll be back to check their progress next week .

A few flowers were open . They are adorable ! There is fragrance that I very much enjoyed. I plucked a bloom to give to my little girl to smell and it left behind that delicious peppery smell like darlows enigma if you are familiar. After I noticed the peppery smell the sweet old rose fragrance came. Not super strong but one that if you touch the plant the fragrance lingers and I love that

I believe they are about 5 ft tall . 5.5 ft on those random branches that pop up . 3.5-4 ft wide . It was so hard to get pics because of the sun . I’ll go in the morning next week to see if that helps. All in all , I absolutely fell in love and now I want one too. I wonder if the local rose society has a sale . I hate to pay for are shipping . But I will .

Look at all these buds ! Now imagine the whole shrub covered in them . I’m not kidding !!

I did want to mention they had a few plants that were much smaller, it looked like they pruned those and they were just as happy .

I’m sorry the quality isn’t the best , the sun going down was really in the way. But I highly recommend this one! I can’t wait to get my own .

These buds were on a shrub next to a shrub labeled hermosa . The gardens aren’t labeled very well so I’m not sure if this is also Hermosa . It looked similar but in more sun so maybe that’s the difference? If anyone can confirm that would be great .

I think it’s the same ... ?

WOW thank you so much Lily! Those pictures were great and now i know where to plant this rose so it has enough space. I got it from ARE during their black friday sale.

Lilyfinch, those buds look like Setina's so I think they are Hermosa's.

For any of you who may grow 'Hermosa' on 'Fortuniana' rootstock: It is unique, in my experience, in that it forms an imperfect graft union. The plant grows beautifully for 3-4 years, then one day, completely without warning, in a wind storm, it snaps off cleanly at the union and rolls away like a decorative tumbleweed, leaving a stump of 'Fortuniana' behind. Because of that, we always try to keep a back-up plant in the greenhouses, as an emergency replacement. Of course on its own roots it would not do that. But I put it on 'Fortuniana' since it makes such a nice plant for those few years. I know of no other rose that has that weird habit.

Does it matter if it's chipped budded or t-grafted?

I have not actually compared grafting methods, but I doubt that there would be any effect. It appears to be a true incompatibility of the union.

Haku, your own root Hermosa from ARE won't have this problem. Dr. Manners in Florida has the best fortuniana grafted roses ever, but we don't have the nematodes Florida has out West. I got mine from ARE too.

I had a baby's breath like perennial do that tumbleweed like thing where the tops just blew off and were gone. I had thought it was a perennial until they blew away.

Thanks Sheila, I was thinking that ARE left that bit out in their description how it is going to blow away in 3 years lol.

NOT funny if you’ve invested in a lovely grafted plant, but that description of a tumbleweed gave me a good laugh. That is not what I expect of my roses, at all!! I don’t think I’d be happy with a tumble-away baby’s breath, either.

ARE‘s own-root plants are very high quality, so you’ve got a good one, Haku!! :-)

Sheila - Can you please tell me the companion plants in that first picture?

Thanks!

I have Euphorbia, foxgloves, nepeta "Walker's Low" and Spanish lavender "Otto Quast", and English lavender on left, (not blooming yet) suncoastflowers.

Thank you! You have really beautiful combos! I couldn't place the unopened english lavender. :)