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Recessed lighting in kitchen on cathedral ceiling - Gimbals vs.regular

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

I did some research on recessed cans as I thought I didn't want the regular flush can. I found something called a gimbal and my designer agreed to that with a 4" can. It's a long story, but the contractors just bought regular 6" cans and installed. I can't figure out if I'm going to like the light in my peripheral vision. Have owners liked the regular cans in cathedrals or am I going to be unhappy? To change isn't on my dime as it was their mistake, although I don't think they will change the layout, just use the holes that are there now. My designer is coming Wed to look but when she came a few days ago with not all of them in, she thought it was fine as she likes a cleaner look and the gimbals will stick out a little, but I go back and forth. I just want to know, not taking into account who has to pay for the change, what do home owners like in the end? Thanks so much.




Comments (13)

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    The contractors probably had 500 of the 6” cans in there warehouse , insist on what was chosen 4” with LEDs in 4000K is what you need and the gimballs just allow the light to be a bit adjusted to shine down. BTW pretty sure no one will notice the tiny protrusion.

  • 6 years ago

    No, it was actually a misunderstanding with our designer and the specs. They went to Home Depot for the product. Will gimbals actually help with the feeling of light in the eyes?

  • 6 years ago

    It's no big deal, and there is nothing wrong with those cans. I also do not think gimbles will make or break the space. once your cabinets, wall color counters, floors, and decorative light fixture go in the cans will fall to the background. Sometimes its much to early to say you don't like it. I would instead ask for a credit and use that money somewhere else, like maybe just a little credit for their mess up.

    judmen thanked RL Relocation LLC
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Are there actually cans (housings) in the ceiling? From the appearance of the hanging fixture at the lower right, it appears that these may be canless fixtures such as this. This light, designed for flat ceilings, is very shallow and its lens is very close to the surface of the fixture and thus visible. This means that the light will shine in your face, particularly when installed on a sloped ceiling. If this bothers you, you could install a housing with trim designed for a sloped ceiling. This recesses the light source into the housing thereby making it less visible and annoying.

    judmen thanked wdccruise
  • 6 years ago

    That's my issue, how annoying is it going to be for me. They just have one can hanging down for some reason. All the canless fixtures that you mention are new. Track lighting was taken down. That's why I thought the gimbal might be nice.

  • 6 years ago

    Im not even sure those are cans or flush mount "look a like" here is what slopped can look like.


    judmen thanked RL Relocation LLC
  • 6 years ago

    I have 4" cans that are specified as shallow with a sloped baffle and recessed trim. Nothing protrudes from the can and you can direct where the light hits...somewhat.

    judmen thanked motherwallace
  • 6 years ago

    Do you guys have a link to your cans? This is obviously not new construction so the issue is space for the cans.

  • 6 years ago

    RL Relocation, are these 4" or 6"

  • 6 years ago

    Judmen - Recessed on sloped ceilings requires a bit more work to select the correct recessed light (ceiling pitch, lumens and beam spread are some factors). Based on the hanging fixture in your picture it looks like something like this was purchased and installed from Home Depot:



    As wdccruise pointed out, these are designed for flat ceilings. When installed on a sloped ceiling you run into problems because the light doesn't shine down. A gimbal would allow you to do that, but there are better options. Here's a link where you can learn a bit more about recessed lighting for sloped ceilings. This is for info only, I don't think this company's solution will work for you, BUT there are LED can and canless solutions that would.


    http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/public/en/lighting/resources/LightingStories/The-Allslope-LED.html


    Aside from gimbal trims, better designed solutions are probably not stocked in your local Home Center. They can also get pricey.

  • 6 years ago

    @judmen: "Do you guys have a link to your cans?"

    I provided links to a Juno sloped-ceiling housing (aka "can") and trim in my earlier comment.

  • 6 years ago

    Those are 6'' . The answer is shallow housing cans. the ones shown above have a remote driver rather than built into the can, so it makes it easy to plop them in for lack of a better term. I will agree that you are slightly getting the short end of the stick.