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Please help with white paint selection and light bulb temp.

6 years ago

i‘ve received such great advice here I’m hoping I can get a little more. I’m trying to select a white paint for my kitchen, living room, dining area. The kitchen and living room are east facing. I have natural white oak cabinets, black counters and cloe white tile that ranges from white to grey to creamy- a lot of variation! I’ve accented with unlacquered brass. I use more green than blues in my decor. Currently walls are SW Neutral Ground and hood is primered. Still work to be done with sink light and knobs.


Should I use something like Greek Villa, which looks like it has more yellow/green, white flour which looks more pinkish, alabaster looked quite yellow in the space, pure white looks grey, maybe BM Swiss Coffee? Argh! Too many choices. What undertones should I look for, if any?


For light bulbs, I’m trying to take advice from another post and warm them up- I got 2700k. But I was doing some research and am now wondering if I should get a different temp? What do you think is best for kitchens? Thank you! I appreciate any insight.





Comments (16)

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    IMO 2700K is way too yellow and has huge effect on colors . I like 4000K in most spaces it eeps colors true and mimics bright sunlight which IMO is the best light. BTW change the bulbs before you choose a color.

    HeatherInOR thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 6 years ago

    Hi - I wouldn’t trouble yourself with ‘undertones’. They are people’s subjective opinion under random light sources.


    The Land of Color operates by objectively measuring the colour of different surfaces, which places them into Hue Families. It also provides information details such how Light a colour appears, how much Chroma (near neutral or colourful) and how much light it reflects. LRV.


    From there it’s possible to work out which white paints are contenders. If you wish your white tiles to be the lightest element of your room then you need a wall colour with a lower Lightness value than your tiles and with at least 0.2 more Chroma in order to make the white tiles pop.

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  • 6 years ago

    P.s. Check out light bulbs CRI = Colour Rendering Index. You want to find bulbs with a CRI of 90+ in order for your colours to have more chance of rendering tru to their colour notation description, as above on the chart.

  • 6 years ago

    Thank yo, Marylee! That’s a lot to digest:) I’ve got some homework to do!

  • 6 years ago

    for sure you need to up the bulbs to 4000k. with 2700, everything will be yellow






    Your kitchen is very nice.

    Why not pick a neutral white? Simply White, Cloud White, Oxford White? Then you wouldn't have to worry about these undertones




    otherwise, the White flour looks ok. just get some samples and try them. AFTER you change out your bulbs

  • 6 years ago

    p.s. on the diagram I forwarded above, the LOWER the Chroma = the nearer to a true neutral. The HIGHER the Chroma = the more ’colourful’ white, as it literally contains more colour from its Hue Parent. That’s why someone described Greek Villa as being very creamy. It has a good deal more of its Hue Parent than a colour like Chantilly Lace, which is literally nearer to neutral. Still, they both are child colours of Hue Parents as are ALL whites/greys/beiges/greiges/taupes/blacks.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Looking at lightbulbs online. What wattage would you suggest? I have 6 cans in the kitchen. I would like to use a bulb like in the photo for the pendant- guessing I need to see if I can get in a 4000k?


  • 6 years ago

    you can look at some of the LEDs for the recessed lights. they come in all temps.

    ditto the other ones. I just use a regular looking lightbulb, but it's the LED. 3500 for pendants would work. and you can go up in the wattage (for instance, some lights say Max 60W. with LED bulbs since a 60W is really only 8W, you can go up w/a brighter light. I did that w/my bathroom pendants.)

    If you can go to an actual lighting store (when things calm down) you'll get a huge selection.

    HeatherInOR thanked Beth H. :
  • 6 years ago

    Heather- I am looking at the LaCanche stove with burners and induction. How is yours working out? Thanks for any insight.

  • 6 years ago

    Hi Lynette- I love the induction! It’s a must have, in my opinion. Which model are you looking at? I’d say I use almost 50/50 induction/gas.

  • 6 years ago

    Hi Heather: I am looking at the Chambertin 43" Classique with Classique cook top. Two 11,000 btu burners, One LARGE 18,000 burner in the middle with two Inductions on the right. The only thing I'm worried about is any type of servicing the stove may need. We live in Norhtern California (near Redding, not San Francisco). So the nearest physical store is either in LA or Seattle, WA. What do you think about service?

  • 6 years ago

    You did a built in hood. Do you have a recommendation for that as well? Thank you for your reply. I was having second thoughts about the range and thinking I should just buy US.. but I've checked with US manufacturers; Wolf, Blue Star and they are limited to designs and no one is making the gas and induction combo. I really like induction. But I have to have gas! Thanks for your replies. :)

  • 6 years ago

    That sounds really good! I use my 11k gas the most of all gas burners. Anytime I need low I use the induction. Will you do gas or electric oven? I use my electric the most but I may try a few more things in the gas oven. I rarely use my warming cupboard.

    I’ve found the over the phone help I’ve received to be good. The stoves are pretty straightforward, as far as being able to work in them. I haven’t had any issue with the induction so I don’t know about that. My nearest store is 4 hours away. From what I’ve read people don’t have an issue with service.

  • 6 years ago

    We did the vent a hood magic lung. It’s slightly less in width than the stove (55.5” range actual vent is 53.5”) but with the framing the hood measures the same width as the stove and the cabs come down to help capture. So far it has worked out fine. If I had a larger kitchen I def would have made the actual vent a little wider than the stove, but space was precious!

  • 6 years ago

    Thank you Heather! You have been really helpful. I am going with an electric oven and the side warming cabinet. I bake a lot, especially breads. When I make my breakfasts, I usually need something (oven) to keep bacon, potato's etc warm. I'm also finding, that because my husband is now working from home (I recently retired :) ) that keeping food warm for him is nice too. He's usually has conference calls that can keep him from a hot meal I've cooked. I'm keeping my Decor wall oven so will have access to two electric ovens. But having a small space to keep things warm should work pretty well. So, I'm excited to get this stove ordered. We will have to do a small remodel in our kitchen, new farmhouse sink and repositioning some existing cabinets. Yes, we are going to probably have to do something creative with the hood as well since the stove is a off measurement of 43".

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