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Help with Exterior Light Fixture on Front Porch

6 years ago

Hi All!


We recently built a traditional colonial in New Jersey. The builder did a sub-par job of implementing the front entry portico and we're having it re-built to include a vaulted barrel roof. Here is what it looks like so far:




The light fixture will hang from a height of 10 feet above the masonry platform (the first floor in our house has 9 feet ceilings).


There will be 10" circular columns supporting the roof on each side. There will be approximately 7 feet between the two columns. Here is the architect's rendering:




Now, we have to choose a light fixture.


Here is one option in copper by Bevolo. The model is the "French Quarter" and it's 18" tall and 10.5" wide. It's $450.


https://bevolo.com/french-quarter/hanging-chain





Here is another option by Savoy House. It's the "Ellijay" model, which is 15 3/4" tall and 9" wide. It's $240.


https://www.bellacor.com/productdetail/savoy-house-5-146-bk-ellijay-black-three-light-outdoor-pendant-1812002.htm




Here is another option by Livex. It's the "Westover" model 2285-04, which is 14" tall and 9" wide. It's $180.


https://www.livexlightinglights.com/product/livex-lighting-westover-outdoor-pendants-chandeliers-2285-04.html





Here is another option by Brass Light Gallery. It's the "London" model and it's 15.5" tall and 10" wide. It's $890. (they have many different sizes and finishes)


https://www.brasslightgallery.com/P/702/LondonLantern10WideChainHungExteriorPendantLight





Any thoughts from the community in terms of the recommended model and size for our application?


(yes, it's personal preference, and I'd like to know yours!)


Thanks in advance!

Comments (42)

  • 6 years ago

    I like the second and the forth ones. Dislike the first.

    Equanimity thanked houssaon
  • 6 years ago

    I like the 3rd one. Do not like the first at all.

    Equanimity thanked Caroline Hamilton
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Here is a better photo of option # 1 (at our neighbor's house):



    Keep the opinions coming, please!

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Love the first


    As far as sizing...



    Equanimity thanked Katie B.
  • 6 years ago

    They are all fine, I don't see you needing the Brass 800$ one because it will be under a covered porch. I reserve those for fixtures that take direct element hits. The first one is great, but the hurricane glass around it would drive me nuts, just another thing to break lol.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    I agree, the fourth one is definitely our favorite, but considering the price and its semi-hidden location it might be best to go with another one. We actually really liked the first one!

  • 6 years ago

    I love the first one. I also like the size of it. And Bevelo is such a great company...

  • 6 years ago
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    We're going to go with option # 4.

    Now, which color? The front door is black and the gutters are brown ("rustic copper").

    Do we go with Architectural Bronze or Black? (both colors have the same sheen)





  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    My favorite option on a 10 foot ceiling is our Charleston Collection, CH 11 light fixture.


  • 6 years ago

    OK here is the story about brass fixtures, They are acid finished, except for black which is a painted finish. So I would go bronze or the Iron not the black. This fixture will also naturally patina down to a dark finish with time, its the nature of the metal itself.

    the sheen is lacker, and that will break down with time so I wouldn't worry about that too much.

  • 6 years ago

    Also, go with the clear seeded glass.

  • 6 years ago
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    Brass Light Gallery (#4) claims that the finish will not change color. Who's right, who's wrong? Also, the cost of #4 is $1,200 (not $800) because we would need the 12" version.

    Adding to the complexity here is the fact that we also need to get two (2) fixtures for over the garage. These fixtures are also $1,200 each, which would bring the total bill up to $3,600. Yikes!

    Is there a company "in between" Bevolo and Brass Light Gallery in terms of price and quality??

  • 6 years ago

    Arroyo Craftsman. It's semi custom and what I have in my house and the exterior of my house.

    Equanimity thanked cpartist
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you @ cpartist . Any others you can think of?

  • 6 years ago

    Brass changes color, its an organic material, even when acid bathed to achieve a finish, basically they are speeding up that process to achieve the Oil rubbed bronze look. Now if you where stead fast in oiling it down every six months you could retain the OG color, that being said, there is nothing wrong with a natural patina.


    Arroyo will be just as expensive, so will SPJ, Maris, and any other made in the USA bras product,.

    You are paying for a quality material and a quality of craftsmanship.


    If you would like an easy china version of this, try Kichler lighting they make one brass series, and possibly Maxim Lighting might make one in there composite series that could work.

    I will poke around for you, its really a matter if you feel like you "need" brass fixtures.


  • 6 years ago

    @RL Relocation LLC -- thanks for these comments. I don't think we "need" brass fixtures (we don't live near the sea and the fixtures will not be exposed to the weather). That said, we've spend almost $2 million building this house and I don't want to put up cheap, flimsy fixtures made in China. The ultimate goal would be to get a product made in the USA that doesn't cost $1,2000 per fixture (if such a thing even exists).

  • 6 years ago

    Can I see the area where the garage lights go?

    call this company, they are a small USA company the purchased Maris lighting, they did a lot of lighting at a fair price for me over my years in the lighting world. You can email them a picture of what you like and they will quote you there cost.

    https://marislighting.com/

    Equanimity thanked RL Relocation LLC
  • 6 years ago

    Troy lighting used to have a made in America brass line Idk if they still do.

    Equanimity thanked RL Relocation LLC
  • 6 years ago

    Here is the garage area:




  • 6 years ago

    @RL Relocation LLC -- is Maris the company that you're suggesting? Or, the company that Maris purchased?

  • 6 years ago

    For that location I would do these goosenecks lights they are a more modern look and have the reach to go over the trim .

  • 6 years ago

    @likewhatyoudo -- we originally looked at the gooseneck lights, but decided against them because we perceived that they are not formal enough and that they're more evocative of a "farmhouse" style.

  • 6 years ago

    @RL Relocation LLC -- I checked out SPJ Lighting and found the following:




    The website is: https://www.spjlighting.com/products/spj35-03a


    The cost is about $500. It comes in several finishes and a few different glass choices are available. It's solid brass and it's manufactured in California.


    This could be a viable alternative to the "London" lantern offered from Brass Light Gallery (which is priced at $1,200):


    https://www.brasslightgallery.com/P/337/LondonLantern12WideChainHungExteriorPendantLight


    The offering by SJP looks like it's less "beefy" than the offering from Brass Light Gallery?


    Thoughts?

  • 6 years ago

    No advice, but I love your house.

    Equanimity thanked mononhemeter
  • 6 years ago
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    Im not sure where you got 500$ from, that would be a dream price from SPJ lol. Are you sure? The quality of their product is just as well, they make a very nice product and you can choose glass and finish. I have used them on a lot of high end homes on the coast of Orange County CA.

  • 6 years ago
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    When you say 12 inch are you talking length or width?

  • 6 years ago

    Im seeing a cost of 730.00 for the 12 wide, 19 long, which is probably the scale you need.

  • 6 years ago

    @RL Relocation LLC -- yes, I called a dealer and was quoted "about $500, before discounts". The pricing can be found at https://online.lighting/pendant-mount-lantern.html. Another site https://www.villalighting.com/ASSETS/DOCUMENTS/ITEMS/EN/1208901_Specification_Sheet.pdf shows $731 for the 11" model.

  • 6 years ago

    The decision becomes:


    Pay $1,200 per fixture for a brand-name company (total of $3,600 for the 3 fixtures). Or, pay about 1/2 that price for a little-known company (total of about $2,000). The savings would be about $1,600.

  • 6 years ago

    yes they can which would bring the price down. Good! they are great people there!

  • 6 years ago

    Im sorry, but just because they are little known to you does not mean they are not known well with in the industry! I promise you that. You are on the east coast.. I have NEVER heard of Brass lIght Gallery in my life lol. So this might just be an east to west coast "ive never heard off, or little known," Because on the West coast they are well known.

  • 6 years ago


    If universal studios can hire them so can you. Im just letting you know they are a great company!

    Equanimity thanked RL Relocation LLC
  • 6 years ago

    Very much appreciated, @RL Relocation LLC... thank you!

  • 6 years ago

    Pretty house! You may have already picked a fixture for your porch, and I'm hoping it's one like those you have shown with a glass top to highlight your curved roof. That's what I did and I really like the light it casts.

    (This was taken before staining / painting the ceiling, wall, and door.)


  • 6 years ago

    @chicagoans -- yes, we intend to choose one with a glass top. I really like your portico! Any pictures of the front of the house?

  • 6 years ago

    Try Hinkley Lighting - very nice outdoor lights.

  • 6 years ago

    No opinions but appreciate all the resources listed as I’ll need to be choosing one eventually!!

  • 6 years ago

    @mariagrazia -- Hinkley has some interesting designs, indeed. However, they are made in China. We will therefore pass on those in favor of those made in America.



  • 6 years ago

    @Equanimity: it's a crummy rainy day so it's not the best picture, but here's the front of the house.


  • 6 years ago

    Very nice, @chicagoans! Thank you for sharing!!