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Is this a bush rose or a climbing rose?

6 years ago

Hello. Last year I ordered Lady of Shallot from my local nursery. it came as bare root, bure beautiful flowers last year and is full of blooms this year too. However, this year around, it’s branches are flaying all over. I ordered a bush and I am thinking it shouldn’t require staking. Attaching a pic here. Is it a bush or a climbing rose? Should I get a trellis for this?

Comments (19)

  • 6 years ago

    Tie them to the railing, it will look great.

    matterbug thanked Embothrium
  • 6 years ago

    It's a shrub with long, arching branches that are being weighted down by an abundant spring flush. After you deadhead, the branches will return to a more upright position - no trellis needed.

    matterbug thanked cecily 7A
  • 6 years ago

    The OP is in the best position to decide if the Lady need arise, now, from that semi- recumbent position ( or is it posture?). Lady Bracknell would find it most indecorous.

    matterbug thanked rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
  • 6 years ago

    im wondering about too much fert.. causing the excessive spring growth ... you might want to look into that ...


    im also wondering about how its jammed in that tiny bed ...


    this is how i look for potential of plants ... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rose+Lady+of+Shallot&t=ffcm&iax=images&ia=images


    seems it can get rather large.. compared to the space ... it might depend on what the cement if front is used for ... can it be giver 3 to 5 feet over such ... or do you use that space for something ... and of course the mirror image behind.. growing into the dark porch ..


    im sure it can be tamed to fit by aggressive pruning ...


    ken

    matterbug thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 6 years ago

    The lady can be grown as a shrub or a climber depending on your preference and zone. Good pruning will keep her more upright. Give her some time to get strong or tie her up. You can see here she is very capable of standing on her own

  • 6 years ago

    I agree with a lot of what Ken has to say--that is a really tiny space for a large rose. What zone are you in? You can see from Dianela's beautiful example and that of Sara's, Lady of Shalott (named for a literary character, not a plant), can get quite huge. Diane

    matterbug thanked Diane Brakefield
  • 6 years ago

    @Sara Malone Zone 9b That is one beauty!! I ordered this rose as it was listed as container friendly. I thought it will fit in the limited space I have in the front yard. @dianela7analabama Thank you, I will tie it up. @ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5 I did not fertilize it this year . It was planted last year as a bare root rose and I amended the soil while planting it. I will see if I can tame it or I might have to look at transplanting it elsewhere. I love this rose. @Diane Brakefield The space is limited as I have most of my yard cemented. I am in Zone 9B.

  • 6 years ago

    I am in your zone! My Lady of Shallot is 18 mo old and 5-6 feet tall. I haven’t pruned her since she was planted except for cutting the blooms to bring inside and dead heading, both of which involves cutting about 12 inches. She is awkward and gangly now but soon I think she will be a huge shrub. Any flowers she produces that lay on the ground get cut for the vase :-) I love her blooms, which are variations of orange, peach, yellow and pink depending on her mood.

    matterbug thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 6 years ago

    @Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal I planted mine last year on Feb 1, the bush was beautiful last year by this time and wore few blooms. I pruned it in January and this is how it grew. I love these beautiful blooms and cut quite a few for the vase. Do you think the space where it is planted is going to be an issue long term?


  • 6 years ago

    Oooooh! She is beautiful with that red rose! Does she have room to grow out away from the railing, ie she’s not right in a walking area? If she does, then she is probably fine. Mine is on her own roots and is extremely disease resistant. She isn’t getting all that much water either so she seems very adapted for a hot dry climate. You could tie some of the canes up and then horizontally on the railing. Also a few could be trained to wind around the post. I have seen some incredible pictures of her with blooms all along the canes. while some roses ( I’m looking at you Paul Neyron) want to only bloom on the very tip of the cane. She should bloom all along the canes once established, which would be gorgeous along that white railing and maybe even up the post.

    matterbug thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 6 years ago

    This one is own root too. She has space to spread out, the bed however is 1 x 5 ft. I read that it is heat tolerant. Initially I would pick up any roses and then fret when they get fungal infections, so now I am very particular about choosing disease resistant varieties. Makes caring for them so much easier. I love your advise on how to tame her, that might exactly be what I do with it. Thank you :)

  • 6 years ago

    I grew mine espalliered against a fence and it served as a beautiful backdrop to our outdoor sitting area. In our area, it grew up to 9’ tall so this was a much better solution. It too was growing in a small space but it worked out beautifully.

    matterbug thanked DandyLioness (CA 9, SZ 14)
  • 6 years ago

    I would get it a trellis and tie it as a climber. Do not worry about the small space, as long as it drains well. I have a climbing rose which is over 12 feet high and 7 feet wide sort of espaliered on our house, and it is growing in a "bed" which is no more than 10" wide, between our house and the driveway.

    Jackie

    matterbug thanked jacqueline9CA
  • 6 years ago

    A lot of Austin roses will get much bigger than what the catalog says here in the US, I have had to trellis almost all of my Austins because they get very tall and have pretty supple canes. When they bloom the blooms pull the weak canes down. Your rose looks beautiful! I would just tie it along that lovely railing. It should make for a fabulous display!

    matterbug thanked seil zone 6b MI
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you everyone for chiming in on this one. @DandyLioness (CA 9, SZ 14) @seil zone 6b MI You give me hope :)

  • 6 years ago

    I live in a cold zone so I can say I wish I have your problem! Beautiful pics of a beautiful rose.

  • 6 years ago

    Lady of Shalott (named for a literary character, not a plant), can get quite huge. Diane


    ==>> ok.. that cracked me up ... does anyone confuse it with something in the onion family.. lol ...

  • 6 years ago

    A whole of people, ken. Diane

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