The first one looks more like burdock to me.

1. Burdock 2. Plantago major - Broad Leaf Plantain (An extremely well fed one)

This is a good example of how important it is to put something in your photos to indicate scale. The Plantain leaves look much bigger than irl.

Yes, the perceived size of the plant prevented me to say that it is Plantain.

will do better photos, thanks for the notes. I just installed the Houzz Google phone app, now I can make comments properly.

1 burdock, I'm pretty sure that's what it is now 2. the broadleaf plantain was actually quite large since it was landed in the middle of my well fed veggie bed which was full of composted chicken and horse manure. I fed the leaves to chicken, they loved it. I'm going to grow some more. Thank you for your notes, much appreciated.