Ditto

I think Touch of Class is correct. Don't think the second is Paradise Glory or Smash Hit only because neither sounds familiar. Thanks sunny wood, I appreciate the help.

I thought maybe Dream Queen on #2, but leaf shape doesn’t look quite right.

I think that is a definite possibility. I'll have to count veins and check it out against photos. Leaf is still early opening. Some detective work is necessary. Thanks

For the 2nd does Forbidden Fruit sound familiar? It is a sport of Orange Marmalade.

Sounds familiar. The edges in the pictures of Forbidden Fruit seem more irregular where this seems smoother. Same number of veins, could be.

Could it be a maturity issue? Here's a younger picture of mine.

Possibly Steve. It has been there about 3 years and is 20 inches across. Time will tell. - Jon