Wanted to ask too when I get larger potted own root roses such as from ARE and HR they are so well branched and bushy. Does this just naturally happen from a rooted cutting or is there trick to it?

Branches come from more roots. I would leave it be. Until maybe next year when it will still be a young cutting, but with more basals, and laterals. Then you might start to cut back to encourage your bushier growth forum. These are just baby branches that are actually just the original cutting practically.

I wonder if Peter said that about this Rose because he's in a zone 5 where I can't imagine he would get too many flushes. Rvr is in zone 8 so that's a much longer and gentler season. I believe anyway. It's possible one clone my bloom more than the other, but Peter is an expert on Hybrid Perpetual's. I'm really bummed my cutting died over the winter. I should have planted last year as it was big enough probably. It's a really beautiful rose and I look forward to seeing more pictures of it. How wonderful that you got to blooms and could smell the fragrance. Someday.

Sorry, your full post didn’t even show up on my phone and I didn’t see your questions below. Being bands, I’d just leave them alone. They need every leaf set right now. Soon enough they’ll grow large enough to tame :)

You’ll have to share how all of these do. I also received Guirlande d’Amour from HCR this spring. Quite spindly but I’m sure it’s going to do fine.

Leave all the plant alone Katya to allow it to have as much strength as it can going forward. The plants put out more canes from the base when they are up to it, like Vapor says.

Vap, you are such a great rose friend! you always chime in with bits of knowledge and thoughts that over time has added up to so much! It makes sense that the branching will happen proportionately to root growth. I am so sorry that your cutting for this rose died. I do know what that is like. I have had great success planting into the ground last summer and fall and I should post something about that. Like you cant wait to see how this rose grows.

Dave, so happy you are growing this rose too! Thank you for the beautiful pictures! Well, it looks so bourbon! I loved the scent. I am growing Y d'A for the fist time this season as well. My new, young bush has some buds on it and I hope the first flowers have scent as I have been waiting for Y d'A for years. G d'A should be a beautiful rose too. You and I must have a similar affinity for roses. Of course I will make it a point to post how these roses do.

Thank you Sheila! Do I seem too pruner happy? No, I am not. A little confused while trying to learn and understand every step thoroughly. I am being well guide by your natural style and philosophy!

A quick happy update. I was not worried but was wondering how they would grow, such teeny, tiny stems.

Here is DdeDrR on May 25:

and on June 23, about a month later. Thats good growth would'nt you say? And it has many buds on it here:

Then these two are Guilande d'Amour on May 18th:

and here is one of those bands on June 20th:

Two more roses that I am growing from bands coming from HCRs. Mme Ernst Calvat and Mme Issac Pereire on May 17th, MEC on the left and MIP on the right:

And look at MEC on June 21:

and MIP also on June 21:

All these bands are growing so well almost on their own.

Someone asked if DdDR repeats. I used to grow it and had 2-3 flushes in the season, so in my climate, yes it did. I had a lot of trouble with powdery mildew so when I reduced the size of my rose collection, I took it out. I have no interest in spraying. However, it is a lovely rose.

They look great, Katya. They know what to do if they are left to grow naturally.

Rosefolly: Thank you! I do hope this rose repeats for me as it did for you! Did you grow Madame Ernst Calvat and Madame Issac Periere? Did these repeat for you??

Sheila: thank you my friend. I do abide by life always knows the way. Sometimes in horticulture, and agriculture, people will do this and that, to augment some aspect of a plant, or diminish another. Just wonder about such things and ask. At the same time I am having so much fun watching these plants grow and do their thing. Its an unending, interesting experiment.

Another update for The Little Band That Could. My little DdDR has put on so many blooms!

Here is the funny or strange thing though. When I received the band there were two flowers on it. These were definitely far more purple than the above new flowers. I distinctly remember the color being purple with some pink, rather than pink with a little purple in it. Then when Dave posted pictures of blooms from DdeDR I was almost going to ask, are you sure you are posting pictures of DdeDR? Those flowers looked way more pink than those on the band I got. Here they are somewhat faded and still look quite purple:

Now the flowers I have look like Dave's in color.:

Can anyone say why there is a such a big shift in color of the roses? Is it age? That was a small rooted cutting that was separated from the parent plant long ago. The plant I have now is not that much older than the band I got, chronologically. Then why would the flowers change color? The soil? Its just a uncomplicated potting mix.

Any ideas any anyone?

I've had blooms age to totally different colors too. Here is an example with Won Fang Yon Tea rose from RVRs. The top photo is an older bloom.

Yes, sometimes his blooms have more of a purple cast, which I love.. The photos I posted look a bit lighter than they actually were, too. Temperature, seasons/length of days, and other factors affect bloom color. I’m glad you’re getting to enjoy so many blooms from your small plant - looks great!

I really like your Wong Fang Yon, Sheila!

Sheila, the blooms did not age to a different color. They were the same color start to finish. I do see a few of my roses age to a very different color as well and different colors as the season progresses. What is the yellow pom-pom-y flower? And the purple one in the pot. Looks lovely! The deep pink of that rose is beautiful.

Dave: Thank you! I can only hope I get that purple look. I liked it a lot.

I like that shade of pink I am getting. Its just that all the purple or purplish roses I got are turning more and more pink and I cant figure why. Thats disappointing,

Many of mine change during hotter sunnier weather. Perhaps that's what you experienced.

Katya, the yellow is Phlomis, and the purple Sea Lavender Limonium Purezii (per Ingrid's inspiration). I have had totally different colors (not aging) like Vapor says on roses here too. I did not experience that in Alaska where there was a cool short growing season, but I do here. Of course, the Teas and chinas I can grow here are more disposed to doing that anyway.

Thanks guys! I hope I get that purple again! Apropos my Marie Pavie is white in spring and baby pink in summer, no white anywhere after spring.