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Lost. Need kitchen help please

5 years ago
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Hi. Our builder is replacing our tile floors with any color Shaw vinyl we would like. We are stuck 2000 miles from our house due to COVID so we can't see anything in person.


Counters: Crema Pearl granite - these are yellowish and I don't think they go great with anything else I like.


Cabinets: Espresso I think. They're very dark brown.


Walls: Sherwin Williams Agreeable Gray


Backsplash: light grey-greige-ish tile. They are our current floor tiles, but on the walls


Floors: I like the look of Shaw's Chiatta but it's a 12 mil and I'd rather have the 20 or 30 mil with pad. Since we can choose virtually any Shaw color, we'd like to stick with either Titan, Antica/Pantheon HD Plus, Alto HD Plus, or Largo, maybe Intrepid HD Plus. Some of the colors on the list that we liked online from these collections are Arcadia Barnboard (might have too much contrast, might be too dark), Plato Oak (kinda blah), Modern Oak (too light for my taste), Saggio, Aardiesia, Temporale (kinda dark in person, very grey), Fiano, Calcare (kind of light), Tempesta, Giardino (I think we liked this in person but grey and kind of light), Trevi, Capri, Santa Maria. I'd like to see Alassio, Tortona, Sanremo, and Biella in person. I can't pull them up on Shaw's photoshop site (floorvana). There were several other colors we looked at but they lacked waterproofing, the pad or the higher wear layer.


We aren't sure if we will stay in the house and need something that would be universally appealing and somewhat timeless.


I like the glam look - glitter, mirrors, crystal, fur. I love glittery quartz countertops and love mother of pearl backsplashes. I don't think a pearl backsplash will look right with our busy counters. So we'd need to replace the counters. It's only 2 years old and wouldn't make sense to change things to match what I like if we're going to sell. The kitchen is huge so it's a lot of counter to replace. It's a huge expense that we won't get back since it's purely cosmetic (replacing 2 yr old granite with quartz). So the floors have to look good with what is currently in the house and would need to look good if we changed the kitchen colors.


I like the look of the grey floors but I worry they will look dated if we sell. I also worry that too much grey will feel cold especially since the space is open and large so it already isn't all that cozy. I was able to get a sample of our counter and cabinet at Lowes and looked at floor samples but they didn't have the Shaw colors, it was only to see shades that did or didn't work. I don't think most of the brown floors really worked well. We have 5 kids and a Saint Bernard so they'll get dirty. So a color that won't show off the dirt will work best.


I've tried Shaw's online photoshop type tool but the colors aren't the same as they are in person. I've been looking at Instagram for photos of their floors to see them in real life. I saw some colors before the quarantine but now the floor stores near me are closed and I'd feel pretty douchey asking someone to come in when they wouldn't be the ones doing our floors. Plus we don't have samples of our colors to see how they'd look in our house. There are tons of colors I like in person that don't look right with our colors.


If you've made it this far, thank you.


1. I would appreciate any recommendations re picking a floor. They've been waiting for a decision for about 10 months already and my husband is getting so antsy he is going to tell them to go with anything. But the house is 4500 sq ft so if we replace them later, it would be an insane expense. We're stuck with these floors for life.


2. Should I bite the bullet and replace the counters/backsplash since that's I feel it's limiting my flooring?


Will attach pics once I figure out how to get them on here


Our kitchen. Sensa Crema Pearl counters and espresso cabinets


2 of the colors I saw before the quarantine. Not sure how they compare to real life pics. They don't look like the photoshop pics on shaw's website.

Giardino


On Shaw's website, fiano almost looks like my old honey oak floors (that I can't stand) with no color variation. But I know I liked them in person.


Not a great pic. It's an open floor plan. It's much bigger than it looks IMO.


Swatches - our colors with a random floor colors (not one of our floor choices). The paint is a shade off from our actual paint color.


I don't remember this color, wasn't Shaw. Kind of brown, kind of grey. Could be Trenton Oak, Westlake Oak...



I think this warmer brown looks bad


My husband likes really light colors. I do in photos but I don't think I want anything really light.




Comments (11)

  • 5 years ago

    Going through photos we took at the floor center (without the counter, paint or cabinet swatches). If I had to guess, far left is nebbia oak, middle is Tortona, left is giardino. left side of sideways piece is Lince - like this one but it's 12 mil. Tortona (long center piece) was a top pick but we didn't commit because it's really light. And now we can't see anything in person...


  • 5 years ago

    I don't remember this color, wasn't Shaw. Kind of brown, kind of grey. Could be Trenton Oak, Westlake Oak... .


    I think that one would work best

    xx4xy0 thanked Melissa R
  • 5 years ago

    I've had a white floor in my kitchen for 20 years. I love it! It looks great and is easy to clean.

    xx4xy0 thanked Elaine Doremus Resumes Written
  • 5 years ago

    In my own personal opinion, here is what I think might be going on with the colors, and let me first clarify that no, you should not replace countertops at this point especially when everything else can still be manipulated to coordinate with them. So, I agree the warm browns in your samples aren't working. However, neither do any of the other cooler, dark colors jump right out at me as the perfect pick. They are tending to want to lean to the gray side whereas your counters and cabinets are more rich and warm, but even more than that, they are closing in on your cabinetry color in similarity. It is hard to make colors work together when you have two strong but yet different dark colors at the same time. I think your husband might be on to something about a lighter floor to provide more defined contrast, but the light sample you have is too yellow. Also, your current flooring is light, and I am afraid you might not be prepared for the total change in feel a dark floor would infuse into your space. You will need more lighting to compensate, and the effect may be depressing for you without a lot of other light finishes to balance it out. For that reason, I would suggest you consider the following two Shaw LVP options, Dawson Ridge Iced Oak and Chardonnay Belleview. The first might be too gray and the second too brown, but both of these lean to more of a neutral than your previous options, I think, and based on photos seem like they might coordinate with your counters. Try to get the builder to take photos of the final sample in your space with your lighting to confirm. Or, if you have your sample color pieces with you, perhaps you could obtain a sample of flooring where you are to compare. The builder could possibly ship your other sample pieces to you if you left them behind. It's a huge investment with long-term ramifications, and you want to get this right the first time.


    https://shawfloors.com/flooring/laminate/details/dawson-ridge-sa596/iced-oak


    https://shawfloors.com/flooring/laminate/details/belleview-sa564/chardonnay

    xx4xy0 thanked Aglitter
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you. I don't want the house to be gray and cold. I like that it feels warmer, even though I really don't care for any of it. The builder only offered a couple of options. I chose grey over beige walls and didn't like how cold the homes with all grey looked so the builder suggested these warmer options for everything else.


    None of the floor colors I posted with the cabinets are our options. They're all other brands and colors but it was all I could do with what I had at Lowes. I was hoping it could help me go in a direction - light, dark, warm, cool, brown, grey.


    I appreciate your insight about the darker floors. I hate our current light tile and really didn't want to get something even close to what is there now. My husband didn't want to pay extra for floors so we got the tile, it was all light. I was actually excited about them redoing the floors so I could get rid of the really light tiles. The light color was the lightest I could find when I was looking. I think a washed oak would look good and would be more timeless than grey. I just don't like light floors.


    I don't like the counters and if we don't sell, I want to rip them out. I wouldn't do that to try to match a floor. Ideally I'd like to change the counters, backsplash and cabinet colors. I really have my heart set on a pearl backsplash but it won't work with what we have now. Changing the kitchen colors is more for that than to match a floor. I definitely wouldn't change the kitchen for a floor.


    We bought the house 2 years ago so the builder doesn't have access anymore. No one can take photos in the house as we aren't there and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving a key code and having people in my home. Lowes has samples of our counter, paint, and cabinet colors but nothing that we can take with us to a flooring store. I ordered a sample of our counter but the piece I got was extremely brown and looked nothing like what's in our house.


    I need to narrow our colors down and order samples that we could take with us to Lowes but we're running out of time. They have to order the vinyl, take everything out of our home, repair the foundation, lay the new floors, and put everything back. They estimate we'll be out of the house 2-3 weeks. At this point, it looks like we'll miss 4th ofJuly and possibly the entire summer. I'm stressed. This needed to be done months ago. :(

  • 5 years ago

    We would likely only go with the following collections so these are our swatches: All have a lifetime warranty, an attached pad and are waterproof, embossed, and have an accent bevel


    Titan: 30 mil, 12 mm thick, 9x72" boards, 20 year commercial warranty


    Alto: 20 mil, 8 mm thick, 8x72" boards, 10 year commercial warranty


    Antica/Pantheon: 20 mil, 8 mm thick, 7x48" boards, 10 year commercial warranty. I worry the smaller boards won't look as good in our very large open space but they have a lot of colors I like.





    I don't have many photos of the house and what I have doesn't look great. The photoshop floors and swatches aren't true to color. So it's photoshopping bad on bad but it might help get ballpark so we can order samples.


    In no particular order.


    Shaw Modern Oak - Titan Series, 30 mil, 9x72" boards, light for my tastes


    Shaw Calcare - Antica/Pantheon series, 20 mil, 7x48" boards, grey with some brown, small boards


    Shaw Saggio - Antica/Pantheon series, 20 mil, 7x48" boards, brown with some grey, like Calcare's opposite, small boards. Prefer the 12 mil color Sabbia to this one.


    Shaw Giardino - Antica/Pantheon series, 20 mil, 7x48" boards, liked this one in person but would be committing to grey trend, worry too much grey will make house look cold, small boards


    Shaw Fiano - Antica/Pantheon series, 20 mil, 7x48" boards, liked this one in person but not in photoshop, small boards


    Shaw Arcadia Barnboard - Titan Series, 30 mil, 9x72" boards, worry this will look too stripey


    Shaw Plato Oak - Titan Series, 30 mil, 9x72" boards, looks very smooth in photoshop, kinda meh


    Shaw Lince - 12 mil so wouldn't pick it but I like it.


    Shaw Chiatta - 12 mil so wouldn't pick it but I like the color. The photoshop is messed up so it looks weird.


    Shaw Alto isn't on photoshop but I like the 72" boards and detail on the planks. I'd like to see some


    Shaw Tortona - kind of light but seems similar to what we have now


    Shaw Alassio


    Shaw Sanremo

  • 5 years ago

    Silver lined nailed it. What the heck just move in. You have porcelain tile that you will rip out and put LVP in? Does this tile run everywhere in the home? What is the ‘big picture’ here?

    xx4xy0 thanked thinkdesignlive
  • 5 years ago

    My husband picked the tile because he didn't want any upgrades on the house. The builder had maybe 3 options for tile, 2 for cabinets, 4 for counters, 4 for paint. it's a cookie cutter house and limiting options saves them money. I originally was going to go with Napoli white granite but the builder convinced me to get Crema Pearl.


    I am picking the floors based on what is in there now. If we sold the house, it would be with the counters and cabinets that are there. But I'd also keep in mind that I want to change the counters if we stayed. I like pearl backsplash, white quartz counters.


    I had quotes and to redo the kitchen cabinets and counters, it will cost about 8,000. A large expense but I'd rather spend a little and love it. I spent over 2,000 to change the color of my Jeep, why not fix up the house.


    I'm not repainting the walls. There's too much to paint.


    I don't understand why you would suggest getting a cheap floor and how it could just cover the area that needs repair.

  • 5 years ago

    We have ceramic tile. They don't make the color anymore. My daughter fell on the tile and has a permanent dent in her head. I hate the tile. The tile covers the first floor and the bathrooms upstairs. The builder is repairing our foundation and will install any shaw vinyl plank. We're not paying for the floors.

  • 5 years ago

    Sorry, kid had swim lessons, no time to really respond earlier. I really appreciate your thoughts.


    My husband just retired from the military. We bought the house when we were living in San Antonio, TX. Now we are in Annapolis MD. It was a brand new development and we figured getting in early would mean we would build equity and could sell if we needed to. We aren't sure if we will sell the house or move back into it. He didn't want to do a ton of upgrades so we got the standard builder options which included the light tiles.


    We figured if we stayed, we could upgrade things on our own, with things we wanted, not the one or two options they offered. This wasn't like when my sister built and went to a design center to pick everything she wanted. I didn't like any of the options the builder had. Many of my neighbors have changed the tiles, backsplash, cabinets, and shower surrounds, bathroom counters. They're all brand new homes, but many neighbors are putting money into making them their own. We planned to do the same if we stayed.


    The foundation needs to be repaired, through the entire length of the house, the porch, and the garage. It's about 2000 sq ft of indoor space on the first floor plus two bathrooms upstairs. They are ripping out the floors and we can replace them with any Shaw vinyl, we aren't limited to the colors they are using in the new builds and they're offering upgrades over what they normally put in. We wouldn't have paid to replace that much flooring and since they're offering us the higher priced vinyl, we are choosing to get that rather than cheaper vinyl.


    I listed our colors because the floors need to look good with what we have. If we don't end up moving back there, we wouldn't change anything (except the floors which have to be replaced anyway at zero cost to us).


    If we move back there, I will likely want to change the kitchen colors. I really want a glittery pearl backsplash. I'm just keeping that in mind so that whatever we pick to match what's there now would also look good if I change the kitchen in the future.