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New Teasing Georgia Rose - black spot or something else?

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

I have a TG which I brought home from a nursery almsot 2 weeks ago. We have had hot, humid weather since then (of course!) and she is slowly developing black spots on leaves. I have pruned away as much of the problem foliage as possible.

Can anyone ID this issue and recommend a remedy? I don’t want to put her in the ground in this state.

We have four days of humid rainy days ahead of us. I can bring her into a covered porch area and put a low fan on her to try to protect from the moisture if anyone thinks that would be a good idea.

I have potassium bicarbonate I could try making a spray solution with?











I LOVE this rose! I don’t want to lose her!

Comments (19)

  • 6 years ago

    That rose looks healthier than anything in my yard. I'd plant it. I don't even spray roses unless they get covered and defoliate. The ones with a few spots will be fine, if they don't get worse. Might as well find out by planting it.

  • 6 years ago

    😁 I am with Witchygirl. Your rose looks perfect 👌 those spots are nothing to even think about. Teasing Georgia is pretty disease resistant but that does not mean you won’t get a few spots here and there. Plant your rose and give her lots of water during the summer she will be great.

  • 6 years ago
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    I am glad you both feel that way! I am in the process of renovating the landscaping at our home. The previous owners had an ornamental tree that was allowed to grow entirely too large and encroached on the walkway. I plan on putting the rose in that same area and do not want the tree guys to hurt her when they come and grind the stump. She’ll have to wait a bit, but until then I’d like to get the spots under control... They do seem to be spreading by the day. I sprayed with neem and brought her inside tonight because it is extremely humid and will continue to be for at least a few days. As of last night I had pruned away almost all spotted foliage. I took these tonight.






  • 6 years ago

    Leave her be. She needs her foliage. That will do more harm than good.

  • 6 years ago
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    Sheila, I am hopeful the neem will control it. I didn’t want to leave the foliage that seemed affected and then allow it to spread. I thought catching it early and trying to get rid of it would be the right thing to do. I will leave it alone now and see what happens. 😕

  • 6 years ago

    Thank you so much! This is my first one so I really didn’t know what to expect or have a frame of reference to go by.
    I go out with my coffee and check the garden every morning before my kids wake up. It’s my ME time!!! I would have no problem using that spray. I will look for some tomorrow. I don’t want to become a hypochondriac but these are the times we live in! Maybe I am projecting onto my rose 😜
    Thank you so much for the information, advice, and recommendations. All of your roses are gorgeous. Olivia Austin was on my list but Earth Angel truly lives up to her name! Sublime!!

  • 6 years ago

    I just ordered Earth Angel for fall shipping! 🥰

  • 6 years ago

    Dianela: I am so taken by your Earth Angel. How big is it and how long did it take to get to that size? Is that just one Earth Angle plant? It looks like such a prolific healthy plant.

  • 6 years ago
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    I changed my mind and found another spot. I will put Earth Angel in TG’s original spot. Have I planted TG properly/deep enough? Should I build up the soil around the stem a bit?I believe this is an “own root” Rose, so the crown should be showing. Or is that a bud union that should be buried?




  • 6 years ago

    I would just point out that neem oil has excellent fungicidal properties and is frequently recommended for good, organic rose care. It is suggested for use by the American Rose Society to control diseases like powdery mildew, black spot and can even have an impact on reducing the incidence of rust. One just needs to realize that it is only a preventative fungicide, not a curative, so of most benefit before the plant becomes highly infected. But it will limit the spread of any fungal disease to unaffected foliage. Just avoid spraying during the heat of the day - early morning or late evening.

    My current garden in the woods is too shady to grow many roses but when I did, I swore by Rose Defense by Green Light, which is clarified hydrophobic extract of neem oil. It did a great job of limiting any fungal issues as well as for common insect control. btw, it also works on insects other than just soft bodied ones by disrupting life cycle functions like eating, molting, mating and egg laying. It also acts as a repellent and has been effective against Japanese beetles. And it is 100% organic and OMRI approved. It was the only pesticide I used on my roses!!

    Shay (5a NH) thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 6 years ago
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    Thank you Gardengal. I successfully treated early powdery mildew on my Bobo and Vanilla Strawberry hydrangeas with it. I sprayed TG last night with neem and the leaves look great. Hopefully it stops the spread. If it continues beyond TG’s comfort level I will look into more aggressive chemical intervention.

  • 6 years ago
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    Gardengal while I have read all that information you mentioned before, and I am certain that it has wonderful properties neem oil does not control blackspot here even if I start spraying in early spring. In the case of Shay’s rose, Teasing Georgia I actually think it can be grown without any spray, even here. Of course we all have different ideas of how much disease is acceptable. If perfection with not a single spot is what Shay needs I still don’t think Neem oil can deliver (at least here).

  • 6 years ago
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    Shay I am glad you like my Earth angel. I actually have 3 planted together own root. They took 3 years to bloom well. I have 2 other grafted from palatine and they have been blooming on their first year so I would highly recommend Earth angel from palatine. My own roots are as of yesterday over 5 feet tall. I stood next to them and had to look up ( I am 5’3) The picture you see is only the front canes I pegged down with garden staples. I feel the need to add that Earth angel has been reported by others here as a rose with stingy rebloom after spring. Mine have done well after getting settled in but definitely a huge difference with the grafted version. Her blooms are not huge but they are extremely fragrant.

    I am sorry I do not know much about grafted roses because how deep they are planted is not something I have to worry about being in Alabama. I think your rose does look grafted but I can’t be sure from the image. Hopefully other more experienced can verify. BTW Teasing Georgia is one of my all time favorite roses, she will be a wonderful rose with amazing yellow, apricot blooms.

  • 6 years ago

    Thank you for keeping me informed Diane. Yours are stunning. I ordered one from Jackson & Perkins that will arrive in a 2 quart pot sometime in September, so I am assuming it will be grafted. I am willing to wait for blooms, but reviewers who ordered that particular listing this spring seem very happy with the plant and are getting blooms. If she is doing well in your Alabama humidity I’m sure she’ll be just fine here in NE. I put TG in a location with sun all day and shade from about 3:30 on, which is the harshest time of day here. She was wilting a bit in the last place I had her, so hopefully this will work. Hopefully she handles my little bit of pruning alright and continues to bloom as well as she has been. These are least amount of blooms she’s had since I bought her. Thank you for all of your help.

  • 6 years ago

    Shay, I do think your 'Teasing Georgia' looks grafted. Not a bad thing - she's already twice the size of my own-root that been in the ground three years (in a bad spot, to be fair, but I'm getting jealous!). Two quart pots should be own-root, but it's been awhile since I ordered from J&P (ran out of space, ha!)

    She looks like a really good specimen, and she'll be beautiful on that obelisk!

  • 6 years ago

    AC, thank you. I am excited to see her fill in. I was hoping someone would chime in and say she’s grafted. If not, I fear I’d have to dig her up and plant deeper.
    That is interesting! I just watched a video which discussed that some Roses bred onto grafts grow more vigorously as grafts rather than when they are planted by their own roots. I wonder if TG is one of those. She sure is pretty though, and totally worth the wait! I’ve been seeing some other posters say that it has taken 3+ growing seasons for her to really show growth and blooms. Maybe theirs are own root and yours has teased you long enough. I hope she takes off soon!

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks @Shay (5a NH) (oh look, the tagging works now!), I'm hoping she starts acting happier in her current spot, if only so I don't have to dig another hole! I doubt TG is one that needs grafting to get to a good size, but it sure cuts down the sleep-creep-standup-leap time! Or, for us cold-zoners, to get them back to a decent size after winter knocks them back.

  • 6 years ago
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    Update - I just called the nursery I bought it from (should have done in the first place). They said my TG is own root (I still think the stem looks like a graft? But they know better than I!); to bury it at the same depth it was at in the pot; and to mulch the crown heavily for winter.