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Invasive mystery plant?

One of these popped up right next to a favorite hosta a few years ago. I pulled it out. But last year I had a few more, and this year I am finding them in several shade beds in with the hostas, all far enough apart that it can't be spreading by roots.
I have not let one go to seed, but no one gardens around me. And for all I know there could be a big cluster nearby that's the source for these.
It's pretty in it's own way, but subtle enough that one would really need a magnifying glass to appreciate it. The flowers look like little orchids.
There is a hosta flower right behind it, so don't be confused by that.
IS this an invasive plant or just an interesting weed?
Thanks.

Comments (20)

  • 6 years ago



  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    It looks like Epipactis Helleborine.

  • 6 years ago

    Looks like Epipactus helleborine, which is considered a weedy to invasive non-native species.

  • 6 years ago

    Definitely a helleborine, as others have already pointed out. They pop up in my shady woodland garden every spring. They're a serious pain to remove, as they have very deep and extensive rhizomes that require a lot of effort to dig out completely. Any small piece left behind can easily re-sprout later.

    linnea56 (zone 5b Chicago) thanked sah_upstate4 (zone 5b - NY)
  • 6 years ago

    Interesting.... I hadn't heard about that one and had to look it up. Now I need to go out and look at a plant I noticed in passing when out in the garden this morning.. As I walked down a path, out of the corner of my eye I saw something that made me think ‘I wonder what that is - I don’t recognize it..’. I was in my way to a particular spot so didn’t stop to look closely. What I saw when I looked up the info on the helleborine makes me think I need to go back out and take a closer look!

  • 6 years ago

    Ack! I'm 99% certain that is what my unknown plant is! I looked closely at it late this afternoon and it looks exactly like the one in this link. DH will be trying to dig it out tomorrow and looking to see if we can see more of them!


    Thanks to the OP for posting this - and thanks to those who identified it!

    linnea56 (zone 5b Chicago) thanked woodyoak zone 5 southern Ont., Canada
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    ‘The flowers look like little orchids.’

    That’s because they are little orchids. Every time this one comes up, which it does frequently, I wonder why it’s quite rare and threatened here, where it’s native, yet invasive elsewhere.

    linnea56 (zone 5b Chicago) thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 6 years ago

    Floral, we could also talk about english sparrows and starlings. :) Keep your British flora and fauna home.

  • 6 years ago

    floral - I wondered that too....


    I did more research to try to find out how deep is deep since most sources just said the rhizome is deep. From one site I found that was a bit more specific, it said a meter deep! Not having a backhoe, it appears digging it out is not an option! Since Ontario banned 'cosmetic' use of horticultural chemicals, dosing it with Round-up is not an option either... So it looks like the best we can do is keep it cut down and never let it flower so it doesn't seed around. It was growing under a bridalwreath spirea that we cut down to the ground to rejuvenate. That's why we never noticed it until after the shrub branches were removed....

    linnea56 (zone 5b Chicago) thanked woodyoak zone 5 southern Ont., Canada
  • 6 years ago

    I've killed scores of these in my gardens this year. The roots are quite deep, and decidedly alien looking.


    linnea56 (zone 5b Chicago) thanked jimr66
  • 6 years ago

    Both sparrows and starlings are declining across Europe, having previously been very common. We’d welcome them back with open arms.

  • 6 years ago

    I wish you could too.

  • 6 years ago

    Yeah English sparrows and starlings are ultra abundant here in southern Ontario. Starlings in particular are linked to the decline of our eastern bluebird.


  • 6 years ago

    Are you short on ivy and holly too? I could send you a cubic mile of those.... and I have always sort of liked this orchid despite its non-nativity here. I’ve never experienced it being “invasive” personally. in fact I’ve always hoped it would pop up in my garden somewhere... though I should prefer our native Epipactis gigantea!

  • 6 years ago

    We’re okay for Holly and Ivy, thank you all the same for the kind offer. Both are native, thriving and no trouble at all. They host a myriad other native species and they even have their own Christmas carol.


    I’m curious about the antipathy to E helleborine. It’s obviously an alien but is it actually invasive in the sense that it ousts native species or destroys habitats?

  • 6 years ago

    I can't say for sure, because it won't even grow for me..down here. But I think it's just an aggressive spreader, but probably not habitat destroying.

  • 6 years ago

    It certainly wasn’t invasive in The Bay Area in California where I frequently saw it Between the redwoods. It just popped up here and there. Never en-masse, never crowding anything out. Just a little orchid to brighten one‘s day. The same can be said about Portland and Seattle. I’ve also never seen it out in the real wild in the PNW.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Yes: because the alien orchid doesn't make visibly dominating patches like ivy or close thickets like holly there is not an obvious appearance of exclusion. However a lot of native plants - including native orchids - have a small footprint also. How many of these aren't growing in millions of little spots across North America now because this real estate has recently become occupied by the Epipactis?

  • 6 years ago

    Here they never perennialize. I just find the odd plant here and there. I wish they were more common in their native habitat floral_uk.

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