Maybe the led bulb was not rated for use in an enclosed luminaire.

I don't know I was in there for at least 6 months outside...I guess I'll buy a new socket and rewire it and we'll find out maybe I could find a socket That's rated for LEDs?

The "socket" isn't the problem (at least not until the bulb burned up). You either had a defective bulb or you used one not rated for the area (outdoors, or in totally enclosed fixtures, or whatever).

no no no a light bulb is a light bulb. The LED you had, had a chip malfunction, and burned hot, kinda like when our old computers had to have 2 fans pointed at it to stay cool. You have to know these are "chips" inside and cheap bulbs or one-off can burn up. Now take some WD40 and clean out the socket, hook it back up and put a regular old bulb in there from another working fixture. The socket could be bad now too..

tx!

yes I'm getting a new socket as the black wire completely came off anyway. interesting I picked up a bunch of Fiet bulbs that I use in my basement I believe at Costco. This particular bulb I had to buy the GE brand they were the only one who made the Edison type bulb...iif it wasn't GE was definitely a name brand because I know they cost quite a bit more! the heck with the fancy-schmancy stuff a regular led bulb will go in now.

get frosted so it won't be glaring.

I purchased a new socket. Of course it doesn't fit in the old fixture. original sock it was custom made for it. The fixture is conical if you saw the pictures. My thought was to drop the a socket in, run the wires through the side then surround the socket with a bunch of caulk, wait till it sets and then install. That would keep the socket secure and in the correct position. But does this socket get too hot for caulk or is there a special kind of caulk I could buy that's fireproog? a new socket is rubber with a plastic inlay.

not custom, configured and its just parts and the right socket, thread, and bolt, id like to see it .the inside of the fixture and the socket you bought.

the first picture is of the same exact fixture but over our garage. This one goes by your front door. The next picture are shots of the inside of the fixture.The third fixture is the socket that was in there. notice the hole in the socket where a screw would go through the socket and screw into the tab in the fixture. The last picture is of the rubber socket I purchased which is supposed to be weatherproof. in all honesty I did not look at Home Depot to see if a regular old plastic socket has that hole there in. I explicitly asked the guy to get me something weatherproof maybe that was a mistake!

that last one was a little blurry this is the new rubber weatherproof socket

how was it seated in the fixture?

if you look at the fixture and the original socket a screw went through the original socket and screwed into a bracket that is in the fixture see these two parts. The new rubber weatherproof socket does not have this hole. someone suggested perhaps yourself getting a porcelain one but I didn't see those at Home Depot. I'll take a trip over to Lowe's maybe the porcelain ones have that hole in place.

if you look at the fixture and the original socket a screw went through the original socket and screwed into a bracket that is in the fixture see these two parts. The new rubber weatherproof socket does not have this hole. someone suggested perhaps yourself getting a porcelain one but I didn't see those at Home Depot. I'll take a trip over to Lowe's maybe the porcelain ones have that hole in place.

held in by that?

well we have two options, rebuild or re buy lol

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I purchased a porcelain socket at Lowe's that came with a little bracket. I took the little bracket off and this thing slid right over the bracket in my fixture and screwed into the place. The light is on it's working fine... so far so good....

Do yourself a favor and replace that old, corroded fixture with one that is rated for outdoor use and won't pose a chance of a fire. Your original picture is pretty frightening....

yes it was. I actually took the socket out of the carriage light and the black wire literally fell off. my dad said it may have been loose and may have been arcing for some time creating the mess you saw.

With the porcelain fixture I made sure I screwed everything down very tight and so far so good. I did not see anything rated for outdoor use that would fit that carriage lights. This porcelain fixture seems to be made much better than the plastic one that was in there from 25 + years ago. Further the light is undercover on the porch it's very unlikely anything could get wet in there. I looked some of the new lights at HD they seem to have those cheap plastic sockets in them to this day.

LOL, that is an outdoor fixture...

Bob- When I said “replace that old, corroded fixture,” I meant that you should get a brand new fixture rated for outdoor use. Just because the fixture you have is on a porch doesn’t mean it can’t have moisture problems. And clearly something is going on with it. Given its age and deterioration, it is less likely to hold up well over the long term than a new, better-designed fixture.

without going to an electric supply shop if there are those anymore I've looked at Home Depot and Lowe's and to be honest with you they're made half as well as this thing as I don't think moisture was the issue with this... plus the same fixtures on the side of my house fully exposed... not on a roofed porch... and there's never been a problem with it. as a matter of fact my dad also pointed out that around the time this thing blew out something weird happened with our power in our block during a storm.... usually it flickers or just goes out. this time it didn't fully go out but all the lights were only half as bright when you turned him on throughout the whole house. some outlets didn't work at all. it lasted this way about 10 minutes and everything return to normal. This happened to my neighbors as well. for all I know maybe this was somehow the cause of the problem with the light if there had been a loose wire or something.. if it seems to be act up again though I guess I will have to replace both of them... but I'll need to find something better than air quality at Home Depot.

Go to the electric supply house, not HD or L!

I don’t know where you live, but there are plenty of electrical lighting supply places in my area when I can’t find something adequate in a big box store....

I googled it actually found one! They have limited covid-19 hours but maybe I'll stop in. I guess I could put a rubber gasket where the topl comes off the thing but between you and me I don't think any water is getting in there. I've never seen any moisture or anyting. I think I'm just going to watch it for a bit and see what happens. I will stop by the electrical supply shop though I am very curious to see what they sell and if it's any better insulatef than what I have. My feeling is either something weird happened with that led bulb or it was a loose wire or something happened that day when the power went weird.

OMG everyone is overthinking this for you...

That is a wet rated fixture

The issue with the socket is resolved

Unless its brass or copper, or well well well painted it will corrode (especially with china products)

RL Relocation-

If this was ever a “wet rated fixture” it clearly isn’t anymore.

why do you say that? why you assume water had something to do with the problem?

why do you say that? why do you assume water had something to do with the problem

Corrosion from condensation. It doesn’t need to be directly rained on for this to occur.

exterior fixtures are wet rated, but that doesn't mean water in water out, it might have trapped moisture for sure.

well it's been a few days so far so good... we have one small storm no issues...it is tucked up under a roof that covers the porch so hopefully it will be fine. thanks for all the help.

I’m not surprised that it’s still fine after a couple of days. It’s what happens in the long term that is concerning....

I wish I knew what caused the incident. no one here has offered an opinion... unless I missed it. the socket I put in seems far superior than the one I removed. It seems very much water tight and it's in a location where weather wont typically hit it. my suspicions are if there is a problem it wasn't related to water. perhaps a wire came loose over time... perhaps when we had the incident with the power company and the power was fluctuating .,perhaps the LED bulb ...I don't know. I'm going to try to go tomorrow at lunch to look at better quality carriage lights at the supply store to see how if at all they are sealed better than what I have.

I would agree it was the failure of the socket/wires, the guts of the fixture do not seem corroded or rusted, as though water has collected in there.

You don’t need to have “water collected in there” to have corrosion. Moisture in the air condensing onto fixture parts, particularly dew and frost, can cause outdoor light fixture components to corrode. You don’t need rain pouring down for this to occur.

so what is your solution..a new fixture? I looked earlier..the fixtures have plastic sockets and do not appear any more water tight than mine. what do I do? my fixture is not corroded in the least. I even held it upside down and shined a flashlight into the cone to see if I see any white escaping anywhere I do not. can Frost appear on glass sure ...can it appear on glass on a new fixture sure. no I've never seen frost on any of my fixtures...

I think the solution is to stop over thinking it, you replaced the damaged part, all is well. Over thinking this.... I dont think moisture is the issue. I would take the other one down and take a look at how its guts are doing. Sockets go bad, stuff happens, new socket, light works, no other issues move on.

I think that fixture is past its prime. I’d replace it with one of the many quality fixtures available. But it’s not my house....

I'd guess that the wire came loose, caused arcing, which caused the charring. I think your dad was right about the situation.

It probably had nothing to do with the bulb.

You replaced the faulty parts.

It's fine the way it is.