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Installing a storm door - Home Depot said it cannot be done

6 years ago

I had Home Depot technician come in for an in house measure for a storm door. He concluded that it is not possible to install storm door. I am disappointed and wanted to get a second opinion.


He said that there is not enough space for the mounts. I am layman and do not know what it meant. Can someone please clarify? Pictures attached!


Could there be any other alternatives if I want to protect my door and then let more natural light in?


Thanks!



Comments (29)

  • 6 years ago

    I can't really see much from your pictures, but I'm sure it can be done. Can you find a professional handyman or door installer?

  • 6 years ago

    Is there a site I can use to search for a professional handyman or door installer? Sorry everything is new to me.

  • 6 years ago

    Not enough room to mount the frame / z-bar that attaches the door. And if that is the hinge side, not enough room to even open the door.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    What type door do you have now? What climate zone do you live in? Can you post photos from further back on outside and inside?

  • 6 years ago

    Thank you millworkman and Flo Mangan. Some more photos attached.







  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    how can i find out what kind of a door I have? we are in climate zone 4A based on this picture: https://4fs0893rxsil3r8n0j24afu1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Climate_Zone_Map_e_DOE.jpg

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Type of door you currently have does not matter in this instance You have two issues. You do not have the room for the z-bar / hinge attachment which is typically an 1" wide. And with those deep jambs the storm door will never open, far enough to be able to use either door effectively.

  • 6 years ago

    A storm door MIGHT be able to be jury rigged on the outside of the door frame just inside the brick, but you will not find an installer from a box store willing to do that. In addition to that type of installation you would need a custom size storm door.

  • 6 years ago

    We have that kind of brain we have a storm door call Lowe's home improvement store

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    I hear "can't be done" in the countertop/sink business all the time. Each time I've heard it, I've done it. Always sounds like money to me.

  • 6 years ago

    so should i try contacting lowes?

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    No. You need a good door company with in-house installers. Or a craftsman who can assess and figure out how you can accomplish your goals. I have a door company here in Houston area that I use for this type work. Your budget is probably most limiting factor. Your existing door doesn’t look like an exterior door? Is it hollow?

    Kiran K thanked Flo Mangan
  • 6 years ago

    I live in a condo so getting HOA approval is major hurdle. Do you think whatever needs to be done, will it affect the structual integrity of the building?


    It is not a hollow door, i think. It looks sturdy to me.

  • 6 years ago

    That exterior door is a flush hollow metal door. Typical condo door. Your building management may not allow a storm door as I said it would need to be on the very outside of the frame just inside of the brick. They would need to drill holes into the exterior of the door frame. It would not effect the structural integrity of the building at all.

    Kiran K thanked millworkman
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks @millworkman Why do you think building management will not allow it if it is not going to impact structural integrity of the building? Sorry this is all new to me.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    HOA rules especially in condos are made to keep uniformity of look so values are maintained. Do other residents have storm doors? If so, take pictures and do what they did.

  • 6 years ago

    Because it will be swinging open 3' into the hall or pathway when opened. And leave screw holes in the face of the door frame if and when the storm door is removed.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    A resident has a storm door but their door frame is different than ours and that is what is surprising to me. I am sure they did not have the issue (z-bar issue) I am facing because as you can see from the picture they have more exposed brick. I just cannot understand how condos can have different door frames. Photo attached. Can you confirm that they have more exposed brick or am I just getting deceived by the look?




    Also, swinging the door open 3 feet is not a problem because there is a private deck outside that door and it is NOT a common element.

  • 6 years ago

    The do not have more exposed brick than you from what I can tell. They have an outside corner and for some reason a smaller jamb or frame depth. I would venture to guess their door is attached to the exposed edge of the frame the same as I am suggesting it may be able to be done on yours. And they drilled holes into the door frame as well so I would say that you should be able to as well.

    Kiran K thanked millworkman
  • 6 years ago

    Sorry my crazy phone above comment it was supposed to say storm

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    A storm door is never structural.

  • 6 years ago

    thank you all. this is encouraging. @millworkman you think my next step is to find a good handyman or door installer? Neighbor cannot remember the installer for their storm door so I need some luck finding one.

  • 6 years ago

    First check your CC&Rs for the condo association to see what is allowed or not allowed, no matter if someone else has a storm door. Then ask the management what would be permitted.

    Find out before you start contacting workmen.

  • 4 years ago

    So happy to report that we finally have a storm door after much delay! Thank you to all of you especially @millworkman. Storm door is now outside of the door frame just inside the brick. And, it was a private installer - worth every penny.

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you Kiran for letting us know the outcome as well as letting others with similar situations that where there's a will there's a way.

  • 4 years ago

    Good for you, and thanks for coming back with the news. Can you post a picture?

  • 4 years ago

    last year Joseph Corlett said

    "I hear "can't be done" in the countertop/sink business all the time. Each time I've heard it, I've done it. Always sounds like money to me."


    Joseph and I don't see eye to eye on everything but on this we have almost identical perspectives. (A) Rather than trying to be the cheapest in town,be the best. (B) Charge plenty for being the best (C) If the customer disagree's with you based on what other people say,don't argue,politely bow out and move on (D) You've heard it many times and it's so very true as well as important to your reputation. NEVER LET THEM SEE YOU SWEAT. (E) Nolan Ryan once said "If you can do it,it's not bragging"

    For the benifit of you that are in the handyman business,I've installed countless doors when it had been said it couldn't be done. I'm only able to truthful say countless because one contract was for 50 some odd upscale duplex units that resulted in a secound contract for another set and I lost count as i did one or two doors here and there over the years. I'm long retired and have put it out that for a fee I will show how I do it. Ditto for brick wall cracks as result of foundation shift. A few doors get installed but I've never seen any done in less than twice the time nor looked as good. The brick crack repair take's closer to 10 times as long and 99.9% can be seen from the street. I remember the very first brick repair I did using this method. I was punching out the repair list on a newly sold home when the listing broker asked my assistance in finding a mason for the brick repair. A mason had give them a figure which had been budgetted then the mason gave them some excuse and backed out (obivously because he realized he under bid the job because the broker and seller would have to contribute in order to get another mason). I had been kicking this idea around for sometime and since I had time to spare I decided I would give it a try,see what I could learn then have a mason come fix it. To my suprise it went faster and looked better than I expected it would on the first try. After I completed the house I called the broker to scedule a walk through with buyer and buyer's agent. In the conversation I told the broker funds for brick repair would come to me. A few weeks after walk through the buyer's agent called to ask me for the mason's name and contact number. Whether you plan to hang a door or not I'd like you to know my insperations come from teachers I had 1st through 6th grade. Outside 3 Rs what do elementary teachers instill in your youngsters?

    Kiran K thanked klem1
  • 4 years ago

    Thank you all for your kind wishes! Here is a picture of the storm door! Yes, the process took longer but it was worth the wait at the end. I also had to get HOA approval and permit by the city since it was an historical building.



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