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Is my plant dead already?

5 years ago

This plant (I don't know the name) was bought 10 years ago, it was originally grown in a ceramic vase filled with water plus some pebbles? only without soil (the way it was grown when I bought it in a shop, is it called hydroponics?). In the past 10 years, I cannot say it was healthy and vibrant all the time (sometimes also yellowish and dull-looking), but it was at least surviving/ living.

Recently, I thought the vase was too small and I bought a pot of a bigger size for it. And this time I put the soil in. I carefully transported the plant without hurting its roots. I think the current light, watering, fertilizers (in form of liquid, applied every two weeks) are all normal for it (in the past I even didn't give it fertilizer). Yes, since it is located in the dining room, it may receive long hours of light (in addition of the daytime sunlight), but in the past it was also like this and it still thrived.

However, with extra care (transporting to a soil pot), more timely watering, and unprecedented liquid fertilizers, the plant seemed not to grow further (yes, it grew some sprouts recently but leaves do not seem to be going to open), its leaves turn yellow or close, the stalks are still green though. I think it is in a stagnant stage--not growing further and seems very slowly deteriorating. The plant got some unprecedented small flies (grown from the soil I guess) around it but I don't think they really do harms? Earlier it got some mold but I removed it with botanical anti-mold spray already.

Then, few days ago I had removed all the soil and turned the plant to a hydroponic one again--with stones and water (mixed with fertilizer). By doing so actually I could check if it had root rot issues. And yes, it got some black and mushy roots and I trimmed them all. Only the brownish ones (the best of the worst already) are left. However, after few days of turning into hydroponic, I still do not think the plant is growing, it seems to stop there--the buds do not grow further or unfold the leaves inside.

But the stems are still green, the whole plant is still greenish, except some of the existing leaves are yellowish. I think it is still living? Can I say so? It has still been being green for many parts for many weeks.

I checked the root today again, and I realized I forgot to attend to the main root (circled in red, as shown in the first picture). The main root is also blackish-- I overlooked it last time when i trimmed unhealthy roots. I wonder if I should also cut that black part off from the plant? Note that it belongs to the main root, not the side roots. Is it risky to do so?

Hope someone experienced in plantation can tell if my plant still have survival chance. And please tell me if my hydroponic method is correct.


When the plant was in soil:





After I turned it into hydroponic again, with mushy roots trimmed. But the bottom of the main root is also black.




Comments (12)

  • 5 years ago

    Nothing to do with Landscape Design.

  • 5 years ago

    wow, your plant is not dead, but it must be in shock from everything you're doing to it. :) It looks like it might be an Areca palm. I would cut away anything that looks black / rotten / mushy.

  • 5 years ago

    To be honest I’d bin that palm and start again.

  • 5 years ago

    Sorry, but it doesn't seem worth trying to save it at this point.

  • 5 years ago

    Wow this plant has been through a lot haha! It sounds like you’ve shocked and stressed it out leading to the yellowing leaves and leaf loss.

    Does the black part of the root feel mushy or is it still firm?

    After everything it’s been through, personally I would just leave it in the water and don’t mess with it anymore.

    I wouldnt just throw it away as others have said, plants aren’t always about aesthetics but it is notably sad looking so give it a break and just accept it may not make it, but at least give it a chance :)

  • 5 years ago

    The bottom tip of the main root (as circled) still feel firm but it's all black. So you suggest not cutting it off?


    Yes, the plant is still green, with yellowish leaves. More days have passed, it still looks more or less the same. The stems are still green. And the buds still do not unfold leaves.


    So I wonder if plant dies with green roots as well?

  • 5 years ago

    Plants can adapt, since it’s gone from hydro to soil back to hydro it’s probably tried to change its roots to suit the environment but it’s a little worrying it’s black although rot would have softened it?

    If you remove it, there’s a chance it may become infected or stress it out further since it’s the main root; but if you don’t there is also a chance it could start to rot and spread.

    I think if it’s as firm as the upper root, personally I would leave it and check it every day making sure the black tip doesn’t soften or spread.

    This might not be the best option if others want to weigh in but I think the last thing you need to do is make any more changes, just try to let the plant recover from transplant stress x 2.

    Chloé

  • 5 years ago

    I’m definitely not ‘all about aesthetics’ and I seldom advocate chucking a plant out but this poor thing is in a terrible state. If you do want to try and keep it going I’d take the opposite route from Chloe and get it out of the water and into a fast draining mix ASAP. Remove any dead or rotten bits. Don’t overwater. Give it as much light as possible. Cross your fingers.

    Hydroponics is a more complicated business than sticking something in water and pouring in a bit if fertiliser now and again.

  • 5 years ago

    Floral would transplanting again not cause further stress? (especially if it survived perfectly fine in hydro before and as OP states there is no mushy roots)

    I didn’t suggest you did, at all, I just think if a plant stands a chance then it shouldn’t be thrown in the bin no matter how it looks.


    I have several arecas but all in potting medium and none in water so best take the advice of floral (taking out of water, not previous advice of throwing in the bin) as clearly hydro is complicated, I was simply thinking of the amount of shock the plant is in and will potentially go through.

    Chloé

  • 5 years ago

    I think it’s already under pretty much maximum stress and putting it into a suitable mix can only be a good thing.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Because it’s roots in a potting mix is its normal way to live.

  • 5 years ago

    What is "potting mix", I heard of it and I searched about it before, but I don't know how it is mixed.


    So, Chloe doesn't suggest cutting the black tip, others suggest I should do so?


    And, if I am to keep it in the hydro state for few more weeks, is my current water height suitable (as in the picture, with a red arrow indicating the level)

    ? And how long do you think I should wait before dumping it?


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