Current plan is to replace fridge with countertop depth fridge.

fit it where? are you removing everything and starting over? like, new cabinets?

wait, you had another post w/the same questions. what happened?

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5998891/kitchen-design-dilemma

What a process! Just can’t decide, I’m making my husband crazy!!!
Everything new (at least cabinets backsplash counter) will see about floor when it comes down to it
But I just can’t see how to fit any island in there!
My neighbour who has the same house moved the fridge over to the oven wall and put pantry where the fridge was, it order to get the necessary space. But I don’t love it

But I’m going to go back and read everything again that you guys said and then I’ll go round in circles again!!!

I would do a diagonal peninsula that ends in a table.

You do not have room for an island.

Keep the peninsula. I kept mine. It's not dated and works much better than the design you showed above.

No to the island a peninsula is a much better choice . Get a proper kitchen designer not some cabinet salesperson that can only plan what works on their computer . We need to know how much you are actully doing. A to scale floor plan with also some idea of surrounding spaces . Are you gutting to the studs , just moving some things ? We neeed more info and that to scale floor plan with all windows and oorways marked and all measurements clearly marked. An idea of your budget too. The measurements of all the applinces is also good.

I am confused .....are Tammy Genesove and sistertamala the same person? My question would be is there a formal dining room off one of the walls? To get an island you will need to open up a wall to somewhere. So what is the budget and Where is the designer? This isnt a do it yourself project. A lot of work needs to be done here.

Yes I am the same person! Somehow I ended up with two accounts!

You are right. We need a designer. Have been trying just to ask people whose people we value (such as all of yours) but going around in circles. Thanks everyone for your help!

What range does a kitchen designer cost? It 's true that cabinet guys/gals are getting us where we need to be.