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Under counter oven location.

5 years ago

We’re putting an oven under the counter. There is no wall space to put it in the wall anywhere. We don’t want a “range” because after 30 years, we're tired of cleaning the gap between the stove and countertop. I wish they still made them like our old GE “drop in” range. The edge/lip went OVER the countertop instead of just butting up against it. We're installing an induction cooktop. My thoughts have been, that if it’s on the side where the cooktop is and I'm using both at the same time, I can access them easily without having to walk around the island. Other than that, I can’t think of another difference. Any input? This is a partial, approximate design. In the past I posted the actual entire design but it was criticized so much by the “pros” I got depressed. WE love the design and that’s what matters. This has really been our only stumbling block.


Comments (16)

  • 5 years ago

    They make guards that mimic the "drop-in" range you describe.

    Terri Wilson thanked wiscokid
  • 5 years ago

    As between the two spaces you indicated, I would put it closer to the cooktop for the reason you mentioned. Also, I think it would be in the way opposite the sink if someone were standing at the sink and opening the oven at the same time,even though there is some offset. Also, getting to the oven when someone is using the sink could be tricky, especially if you are holding a hot skillet that you are going to put into the oven.


    but—why not directly below the cooktop. That’s what I am planning to do. When I renovate.


    and—the Bosch induction range that I currently have has the lip you mention. No gap.

    Terri Wilson thanked nycbluedevil_gw
  • 5 years ago

    We thought about under the cook top, but we’re going with a 36”cook top. I don’t think anyone makes a 36” wall oven and I think it would look funny with a 30” oven under a 36” cook top. It’s also on the same wall as the refrigerator, so I’d want them to match very well. Hidden in the island, it wouldn’t matter as much. We’d get as close as we could, but I don’t think it’s necessary to match perfectly…. by brand etc. I got excited and just looked at the Bosch induction range. It doesn’t come in 36”. We have a huge wooden hood and we really had our hearts set on 36”. It’s a large open kitchen. I’m afraid a 30" would look undersized.

  • 5 years ago

    In contrast to a range, as is shown in Figure 2B of these (example) GE wall oven installation instructions, a 30" wall oven installed under a counter will be very low, its hinge just above the 4" toekick and handle barely above the floor when the oven door is open.

    Terri Wilson thanked wdccruise
  • 5 years ago

    I think a 30” oven under a 36” cooktop will look fine. That’s what I am planning to do. The height of the wall oven seems to be an issue depending on the brand. I was looking at the Bosch cooktop oven the Bosch convection oven. I don’t think that is unduly low. Am I wrong about that?

    Terri Wilson thanked nycbluedevil_gw
  • 5 years ago

    I personally would put it in the “Or here?“ spot. If you’re cooking at the cooktop, and someone is trying to take something out of the hot oven, the oven door will be down, so what space would that give you as you’re cooking at the range top? Usually when I am cooking, I am using the cooktop and range at the same time. Dishes usually come after. Think about how you cook, as for me, I would see more opportunity for collisions if that was me.

    Terri Wilson thanked lizzierobin
  • 5 years ago

    I am assuming that you will have a DW to the left of the sink so I'd put it on the end of the island so it doesn't interfere with the DW. If you have the space it would be best to move the island further to the right so that the oven door opens past the cooktop. I have two Miele ovens under the counter flanking my range top. I prefer to have the pot and pan drawers underneath rather than standing in front of an oven. It will also allow a helper to check on the oven while you are at the cooktop if they are not back to back.

    Terri Wilson thanked wilson853
  • 5 years ago

    I would either go with 'here' or put it under the cooktop to keep the cooking items in the same area. A 36" cooktop with a 30" oven is becoming quite common and looks fine IMO. That's what we are doing after researching to make sure it isn't 'weird'. We want to do something that may indeed be odd!


    We are remodeling our small house and kitchen and want to eliminate the CO entirely, and have a 36" Bosch induction cooktop plus a large Miele or Thermador CSO, and a speed oven with a broiler. Anyone have any thoughts on that? Especially eliminating the CO in favor of two smaller combi ovens.

    Terri Wilson thanked E. Hendricks
  • 5 years ago

    I know that people love convection steam ovens but I have never looked into them. I love My Miele speed oven but have never used it for broiling, but then again, I rarely broil anything. I have probably used my Blue Star broiler five times in the eight years I have owned it.


    As I am undertaking a kitchen renovation in my country house and doing a 36” cooktop (probably Bosch) with a 30” oven underneath plus a speed oven, I will be very interested to hear what other responses you receive.

    Terri Wilson thanked nycbluedevil_gw
  • 5 years ago

    By the way, I assume that you are doing a 24“ speed oven? The Miele is surprisingly roomy. We use it for convection baking all the time and barely use the giant oven. The only down side to the speed oven that I can see, other than cost, is that if you need to use it as a microwave after you have baked something, it will still be hot, so you have to either microwave first or avoid using a plastic container while the oven is still hot. Slightly inconvenient but not that big a deal.


    We rarely use the speed functions. Mostly because I forget to! I think that is a pretty common thing. I think most people get a speed oven to avoid having to find a place for a single-purpose microwave. The Miele speed oven gets an A for killing two birds with one stone and it performs great as a regular oven.

    Terri Wilson thanked nycbluedevil_gw
  • 5 years ago

    You want a 36" hood for a 30" cooktop/range; for a 36" cooktop/range, you should go up to a larger hood (42").

    Terri Wilson thanked wiscokid
  • 5 years ago

    Our cooktop will be on an island and we are putting in a Best 36” downdraft that will vent through the crawl space and outside. That works, right?


    We are gathering opinions and will make a decision this weekend!

    Terri Wilson thanked E. Hendricks
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for all your input! So sorry for my delay in responding, but my mom had a stroke and I was caring for her at her home and her computer is so old, I can’t access Houzz. And believe it or not, I don’t have a cell phone. @wilson853, my dishwasher will actually be to the right of my sink. My upper cabinets will be on that side where most of my dishes etc. will be located. Open shelves will be to the left of my sink. There's also more room on the right for the door. The door will open into the open area in front of the cook top. @wiscokid, my hood is high CFM. And oh, I had so many different opinions about hood size. My head was spinning. I think we're ok. My cousin who has worked for a well l known appliance store for over 20 years still thinks I am so wrong for buying a hood larger than my cook top. And the whole store backs her up. They insist they should be the same size. Go figure. I even sent them photos of several kitchens. Some of the photos in their own store show hoods larger then the cook top or ranges.

  • 5 years ago

    Gaggenau makes a 36” oven, if you really want one. Not sure about your budget, but it is usually possible to find a floor model.

    Terri Wilson thanked akrogirl32
  • 5 years ago

    @akrogirl32, they are really nice, but I'm not a fan of stainless. It's tough to fork out that much dough when you really don't like the look.