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Do we have to start over?

5 years ago

We are buying a fantastic home that was owned by woman with very different taste than ours. She painted and tiled in pale beachy colors and we prefer both clean modern neutral tones or deep saturated colors. The walls are easy but what to do about the bathroom tile border? Is it possible just have the borders taken out and replaced with a new border or are we going to have to start over tiling the shower and wall. We cannot live with it.


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  • 5 years ago

    @Beth H- BTW, “LOL” doesn’t stand for “Lots of Love”

  • 5 years ago

    c9pilot...Um, did I say it did? what's your point?

  • 5 years ago

    @Beth H - the point is that you might have your own interpretation of that “K” term, but most people know it either as a South Park substitute for vulgar language, or a condescending remark. Perhaps that is your intention, but if not, at least you‘ll better understand why people are responding to you in the manner they are.

  • 5 years ago



    Really, we lost Sophie Wheeler, a wonderful contributor to Houzz over nonsense like this.

    We give the best help and advice we can, and we are all human and all too imperfect.

    A sense of humor is a wonderful thing.

    p.s. the curls are natural


  • 5 years ago

    Okay as entertaining as you all are, back to the question. It will be a lot of work but you can probably cut along the grout lines and remove the very specific green tile and replace it with something else! The slow and painful way would be a grout saw but careful use of an oscillating saw would probably work too. We had to do this in our first house that had broken tiles and we simply were not in position to completely retile the entire bathroom.

  • 5 years ago

    Really, we lost Sophie Wheeler, a wonderful contributor to Houzz over nonsense like this.

    Define “wonderful.” And, afaik, that account still exists so I’m not sure why people think that user was banned by Houzz.

  • 5 years ago

    And I don’t fine the use of “mkay” to be vulgar; I find it to be condescending, which I believe is the author’s intention.

  • PRO
    5 years ago
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    @florwoman - Select a low profile pencil trim. (3/8" maximum thickness). Stone, glass or tile as long as one long edge is fully glazed. Find a mosaic that fits your taste.

    Apply this product. Yes it's approved for glass. https://www.mapei.com/us/en-us/products-and-solutions/products/detail/eco-prim-grip

    Laticrete also has a similar product if that is easier to locate.

    https://laticrete.com/en/tile-and-stone-installation/adhesives-and-mortars/multipurpose-bonding-primer/prime-n-bond

    Install the new border over the existing. No demolishing tile and wall board. It is not uncommon to see a raised border trim just be sure to select a thin mosaic for this application.

    Hope this answered your question directly. Bet you wish this comment was first:)

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    the point is that you might have your own interpretation of that “K” term, but most people know it either as a South Park substitute for vulgar language, or a condescending remark.

    **insert eye roll emoji**

    c9pilot. one person made a comment about mkay. two if you count your dog. (I can't believe I have to defend my stance on this.) To me the word means, OK. mkay? Just like that. Her telling me not to use that term because it's a substitute for profanity, ( which in no way did my usage of that word even convey that) is absolutely ludicrous. I'm not a south park watcher, so I've really only seen the teacher say it a few times. I don't really care what you or she thinks it stands for. The only thing that matters is how I intended its use. If you interpret it differently, that's your issue. Anyone w/common sense could see the context in which it was used and know there was no profanity or condescending vibe behind it. I've had it up to my eyebrows with overly sensitive people who feign dramatic offense over something a stranger writes in a simple comment. Get over yourselves.

    And Sammy, I find it to be condescending, which I believe is the author’s intention. You have no idea what my intention was. Sophie? She was banned unless she abided by certain restrictions, her account is still there. she had a massive stroke and will never be back.

    seriously, all of you that find mkay on your list of 'omg, please no', need to lighten up and find some humor during this year. mkay?

  • 5 years ago

    And to Sophie wherever you are, a complete and speedy recovery!

    And to whoever may be in touch with her, please convey the very best wishes for a healthy New Year!

  • 5 years ago

    Once you paint the walls, you might not dislike the trim as much. IF you like the sinks as is, consider waiting a while before changing anything other than wall paint color; however, if you dislike pedestal sinks ...


    You could remove the pedestal sinks and replace that with a countertop (atop vanity) and use the same countertop material to create a backsplash that covers the existing tiles -- perhaps Corian. Choose the vanity beneath it to suit your particular storage needs.

  • 5 years ago

    I read that Sophie houzzer had a stroke - is that true?

  • PRO
    5 years ago
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    True, yes TRUE. Sophie suffered a debilitating stroke. Very shortly after being banned or .........letting the speech police , humor police, control her. Now that is irony, isn't it? If my drift is lost on you, scroll up for more irony.: )

  • PRO
    5 years ago
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    PS........ All of you with questions regarding your master bedroom, bath, closet, suite? Please do edit your question to reflect the new protocols............

  • 5 years ago
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    Well, it ain't a party til Jan shows up to drive the crazy train completely off the rails.

    🙄

  • 5 years ago

    I am a total non pro and reading along for the ride. It does seem that 9 replies above mine Creative Tile gave what looks to be like a very good suggestion. If I understand it correctly, you won't have to live with what you really don't like, and don't need to start over.

  • 5 years ago

    @Creative Tile Eastern CT, thank you for sharing this information. I hope the OP sees it. The messaging featuring is off on @florwoman's profile, otherwise I'd message her directly your answer. Let's hope the @ s in our posts work.


    Are these relatively new products? The OP's question comes up often in this forum and this is the first time I've read of this possible solution. This the kind of trouble-shooting information that deserves its own thread from a Pro and the kind that well-organized forums "sticky" for users.

  • 5 years ago

    Changing the wall color and adding more saturated accessories and art will be dramatic. I love the idea of some of the bold wallpaper.
    On a side note I wish things weren’t censored and so we can consider all opinions. Besides who is doing the censoring and how do they decide what I find offensive or just interesting?

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    There's nothing here that's been censored, at least not that I can tell from what I read here yesterday. It reads like a clusterf*** because that's exactly what it devolved into!

  • 5 years ago

    Hooray for Jan! Thank you for your comments. I couldn’t agree more. PS I love that bathroom just the way it is.

  • 5 years ago
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    Jan- I like that bathroom, but that picture-

    I make it a point to eschew any so-called art that a kindergartner could have done.

    Those are beautiful lower cabinets, which very rich color.

  • 5 years ago

    @JAN MOYER - Love your use of deep, saturated color to offset the teal!

  • 5 years ago

    Oh my goodness gracious I thought this was an exchange of ideas, knowledge, and opinions on home design. Some of you need to move on over to Reddit where you can just burn bridges and have petty fights all day long. It is just as easy to be kind and respectful as it is to be mean, condescending, or judgmental. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could all just get along?! And Jan Moyer that paint color on that vanity is amazing!!! I have been obsessing over Charleston Green all weekend but now I have a new obsession. Color info puleeze!!!

  • PRO
    5 years ago
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    Gonna go straight back to the OP..

    " We are buying a fantastic home that was owned by woman with very different taste than ours. She painted and tiled in pale beachy colors and we prefer both clean modern neutral tones or deep saturated colors. The walls are easy but what to do about the bathroom tile border? Is it possible just have the borders taken out and replaced with a new border or are we going to have to start over tiling the shower and wall. We cannot live with it."

    Lots of good advice in this thread. Start with living with the tile for a while- though yes, paint the walls first white or something to help ease that color since you prefer darker saturated colors. If you want to change the shower- that's a full strip down and rebuild. If it's replacing the tile on the wall over the sinks, that might be easier without a full rebuild.

    Since you don't have cabinets, and the white of the pedestal sinks. And you do have a high wall of vertical board and hook flanking the alcove?... maybe try out some of those deep saturated colors on that wall to reflect with the mirror action going on?

  • PRO
    5 years ago
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    Oh.... No Idea that paint color: Not my client, just a grab from the web to suggest an idea. But BM Hale Navy would be pretty !

    Or a navy with a kiss of green in it SW "Salty Dog".........: ) Aptly named as the deep deep blue of an icy ocean actually has a green tone...especially prior to a storm








    below and pretty darn close eh??





  • 5 years ago

    Jennifer Mehditash Design did that bathroom ... she said the color is a custom mix of Dunn-Edwards paint colors.

  • 5 years ago
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    I was only SHARING in case someone WONDERED if it was a SPECIFIC color, but THANKS for the LECTURE.

  • 5 years ago
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    I like this one better, not really ready for the Guggenheim, but at least it's not cacophonous paint splats with someone taking the back end of the brush and making circles in the wet paint!

  • 5 years ago

    The competition is fierce from year to year, but I think I can go ahead and announce it:




  • 5 years ago
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    YOU lighten up, Jank! Wow. Seriously, YOU need to CALM down. GAWD.

  • 5 years ago

    Agree! I thought Jan Moyer was posting her own work not a screen grab.

  • 5 years ago
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    Jan,

    You don’t need to suggest anything to me. Take your own patronizing advice.

  • 5 years ago

    😂 I have just read this whole thread and enjoyed every minute! For awhile there I thought I was transported to the now defunct Hot Topics only to realize it has been archived! So many posters gone and spirited conversation lost! Sigh... the times they are a changing....

  • 5 years ago

    If anybody still cares about the original topic, I have a rental property I painted the ceramic tile on back in 2012. I was looking for an inexpensive solution since it was a rental. 8.5 years later and the paint has held up perfectly.




  • 5 years ago

    James, is it possible for you to post a current picture? I am thinking about doing this in a rental property and seeing a current picture would be really helpful.

  • 5 years ago

    It's an old photo, dated 2012. I would really like to see a current photo.

  • 5 years ago
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    well, to be clear, painting ceramic tile is what that paint is actually meant for. however, OP's tiles are glass. Not the same. especially in a shower. So can we please move on from the painting the bubble tile suggestion? (and which started this whole debacle of a thread?)

    OP, if you're still out there, just paint the darn walls and live w/the tile until you can redo the entire bathroom to your liking.

    Anything else you need help with???

  • 5 years ago

    I don't have a pic of the same area but here is a pic about a year ago when it was between renters. Since it's a rental and there are tenants in it, I can't go in and take pics.





  • 5 years ago

    ...I need a 2nd glass of wine...good times :)

  • 5 years ago

    I love the idea of the deep emerald green paint (shown on the cabinets in Jan's screen grab) on the walls in that bathroom with the green bubble tiles. While I wouldn't pick the bubble tiles myself, I don't think they're ugly by any means and cringe at the thought of starting over with what looks to be a bathroom in excellent condition just to get rid of some strips of tiles. I did pick the sinks (Kohler Memoirs) and love them-- we have the exact same ones in our master bathroom and they have nice, wide edges. For storage we have medicine chests and a floor-to-ceiling cabinet.


    Not sure why I bothered to respond... The OP is probably long gone by now. I found this thread entertaining for more reasons than the decor advice. Sorry to hear about Sophie though. I hope she recovers. Such a shame the increase in silly rules, restrictions, and censorship these days.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    It is very difficult to cut out the accent tile in a shower to update with a different accent tile without running the high risk of damaging the water proofing. This is especially true when changing out of the floor tile. I think a change to a more neutral paint color and replacement of the orange/brown flooring would go a long way to tone down the design choices of the previous homeowner. The warm tone of the floor is creating a complimentary color scheme resulting in the green punching up brighter. I would grey down both the walls and floor.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    PS-I love your sinks!

  • 5 years ago

    Good point Nissen!

    What do you mean by "grey down the walls and floor?"

    Do you mean paint the walls grey and do the floor in a greyish color?


  • 5 years ago

    this is the second thread I have been on in a short time that became a debate of opinions or storytime that totally revoked the OP from wanting to be here.............. You guys need a rant page.

    Has she been back? Because I feel like someone threw a bunch of cats in a box here and said have at it..........what a mess!

  • 5 years ago

    If people are still interested and paying attention, another option is Smart Tiles. These are peel and stick backsplash tiles that come in sheets. I have used these on rental properties and they work great and look real. It's easy DIY and they also come off easy with a heat gun. They are water resistant and have held up well for me. They are made to go over existing tile. There's no grout or gluing. They come in many different styles and colors and can be bought at Home Depot or Lowes.


    https://www.homedepot.com/b/Flooring-Tile-Tile-Backsplashes/smart-tiles/N-5yc1vZbcszZrdo?storeSelection=

  • 5 years ago

    😂I have “ inadvertently” stepped on a few toes myself over the many years I have been here! Now feeling like I must watch myself for fear of being chastised or cancelled. Hitting the Post key is making me neurotic 🙄

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Lol RL Relocation- there was a rant page here, it was called Hot Topics... but it got so bad and hostile that it wasn't worth babysitting just for some people to be nasty to each other about topics that have nothing to do with Houzz, so Houzz finally removed the section recently. The folks that could actually have civil conversations about rants moved to another forum.

    Unfortunately some folks around here seem to think that just because payment isn't being made in money, that means the payment for the advice is to be verbally abused in ways that money paying clients can't be abused. Then we got folks that aren't labeling themselves as Pros, but behave just as poorly.

    It's a shame, because then folks like the OP don't really get the help their questions deserve because their topic got turned into a whipping post.

    Fortunately, there are still folks here that want to be helpful and are able to keep civilized tongues in their heads. I hope the OP comes back to at least read through this whole thing to glean out all the great advice kindly given here.

  • 5 years ago

    I mostly come for the pics. I was surprised how some of the labeled pros act. Some are local so I know who to avoid.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    I come for the popcorn

  • 5 years ago

    well, I guess the rest of us can just opt-out as the OP did.! have a great reminisce.