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rachelhaberman

Impossible to replace round top front door

5 years ago

I’ve done a lot of research on how to replace this door... which cracked within 2 years of the house being built. Additionally, we need more light in the house and I want a either fully windowed door or a half door.

Every manufacturer I’ve contacted says it is nearly impossible to just replace. My understanding of the issue(s):

  1. Wood won’t work due to our sun exposure; another wood door is almost guaranteed to crack again. Therefore the door must be iron, fiberglass, steel, etc.
  2. The arch radius isn’t standard on doors, so two round doors may be totally different
  3. The door isn’t a uniform size offered in the market

I’ve been told I’ll need to entirely reframe the door, so this will be a contracting job.

I’m okay with the iron or steel and I’m okay with a construction project, but wow it is hard to find a door like this in my local region or that will ship to my local region. So even if I have a contractor, I have no door.

Where I’d love advice:

  • anyone know where I can find a round top door in seattle?
  • anyone have another design idea? We’ve thought about a rectangular door with a round window. If we did a square window, we’d need to also reframe the other exterior arch (okay), but I do like the round.

Door measurements: 3 x 8

Comments (28)

  • 5 years ago

    What a pretty entryway! Unfortunately I don’t have a lead for you but I would keep the shape of you can!

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you! I agree! There are a ton of doors online that I like, but everything I’ve found is problematic in some way.... wrong size and not customizable OR right size, but won’t ship to seattle.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Easiest would be to square off the opening, install a standard door with a transom above. Have you been to a local lumberyard? Mine has an ‘outside sales’ team that comes to your house and measures and gives you options (I don’t mean the blue or orange box)

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks a bunch! I have been to a very reputable lumber and door manufacturer and they won’t sell me a door... they say not to buy a wood door due to my sun exposure.

  • 5 years ago

    Have you contacted any carpenters to see if they can repair your door or install a window?


    The entry to your home from the outside is lovely because of the coordination between the porch arch and the door arch. If you change the arch of the door, it might look off from the outside in comparison with the porch arch.

  • 5 years ago

    I like the idea of finding a carpenter who could repair the damage. It may be possible to replace the top portion inside the arched wood frame with seeded glass.

  • 5 years ago

    I'd give Nick's a call and talk to them. They may also give you some insight why your door cracked. After living in AZ in a custom home area with a lot of homes with wood front doors, I never heard anyone having a problem except the sun bleaching out the wood.

    https://www.nicksbuilding.com/custom_order_doors.php

  • 5 years ago

    Same here re wood doors. We’re in Texas and regularly have summer months chock full of full sun days in the 100s. Maybe it has something to do with the moisture added in? I like the door you posted as an option!

  • 5 years ago

    What a shame because that entry is beautiful and I love the door. It seems like someone could make a custom door and seal it somehow.

  • 5 years ago

    I believe you mentioned that this door cracked 2 years after the house being built so just wondering if there may be some sort of warranty with your builder, contractor or architect? If so they might be responsible for replacing this door as they are very expensive and should not crack that soon.

  • 5 years ago

    Great advice, thanks all. I did call on the warranty... they told me they don’t warranty for doors that don’t have a specific amount of overhang due. The cracking is due to the stain + sunlight causing rapid expansion and contracting, or so I’ve been told.

    I’m with you, the shape must stay. Now I just need to find a steel or iron door in the right size... which has been really hard

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    was the door regularly coated w/a UV varnish? not a poly, a varnish? something w/the UV filters? that's the only way to maintain a wood door exposed to the elements. And this varnish needs to be redone yearly. I suspect this is why it cracked. unless it's a poorly made door.

    Sikkens, Epifanes, Penofin, are all examples of products made for exterior applications.

    at least the door is shielded from water. if the sun hits it daily, you must use the UV resistant varnish. again, not poly.

    or, can't the crack be fixed and filled (with an epoxy filler) and the door painted? At least you could keep the same door.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Rachel- the door is beautiful! Do you know where to find a finish carpenter to fix the door?

  • 5 years ago

    I'm in the door industry in the Seattle area.. that door is way outside of our wheelhouse but
    I would suggest reaching out to Byron at Seattle Door and Millwork. http://seattledoorandmillwork.com/gallery.html

    And or Mike at Starboard Door in Tacoma 253-720-6028. They may be able to assist you.

  • 5 years ago

    What a pretty entryway! Unfortunately I don’t have a lead for you but I would keep the shape of you can!

  • 5 years ago

    That door can't possibly get enough sun to ruin it in 2 years. It's inset several feet (and in Seattle). I agree with having a new one built by someone that understands what species wood to use and how to finish it to last. A wood door should last many, many years.

  • 5 years ago

    I'm a bit confused with the door you linked. The one that's dark green seems perfect. It has the round top and also the straight edges that matches the outside shape/framing perfectly. but it also shows a square standard door with a wrought iron insert. If you can get the round door installed (requiring reframing) I think it's perfect. Please don't go with a square door. It will also affect the saleability of your house. Also, consider a finish that can help with the heat exposure on the door. There's no way you should have had sun related issues in such a short time (and in Seattle!) There are places far hotter with more sun exposure and they have doors that last years. I suspect a finish/quality issue.



  • 5 years ago

    Everyone has been so helpful, thank you. I agree I can’t change the door shape. Even though I could repair the existing door, I’m going to replace it bc I really want windows in it.... we need more light in our house entry.

    Anyone have an opinion of these three options?

  • 5 years ago

    I like the second option with the arched detail on top, which looks like your curved roofline just above the door. But post a photo of your whole house from farther away for better opinions.

  • 5 years ago

    Try pinkysirondoors.com. Similar to what you’ve found already but worth comparing in price, etc.

  • 5 years ago

    I like that last one for sure. the Eleanor I think.

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    You have a very beautiful door. What a pity that it has fallen into disrepair. I think the easiest thing would be to trim the opening and install a standard door. I think that trying to put a similar door would be a big problem. As I understood, she is many years old and now such doors are not mass-produced. Therefore, you are unlikely to be able to buy it in a regular store, you will have to order from private masters, and even such masters are unlikely to have experience with such doors. I searched the internet and found a couple of cool doors, you can go now. Although in fact, in any door store you can pick up something good. Now the doors are not so expensive.

  • 4 years ago

    There used to be, and I hope it’s still there, a small door shop on 45th St in Seattle. Cannot remember the name. I’ve been in there a few times just to look around, because the doors were amazing. Might be worth checking out my flimsy lead?

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  • 2 months ago
    last modified: 2 months ago

    I would try to find someone to repair the door with abatron the have it refinished properly. You might be able to find someone that adds glass to solid wood doors. We had that done to our solid mahogany doors and it added a lot more light.

    wanted to add: can you show the crack?