Hi all:

I asked a couple of days ago about placing a stove on the short side of an L and some of you helped me with information to convince my partner that we should definitely not do that. Some also invited me to provide more info on the whole space. Maybe some of you would enjoy this puzzle/challenge? :) The image shows the shape and the dimensions for the kitchen. I hope it's readable to you.

* We want there to be space for eating in the kitchen. A pretty tight squeeze for 4 is good.

* I think moving a gas line is not very expensive (it is exposed in the basement) and that's for sure an option.

* We can't move the sink drain (that I'm aware)

* I think moving the doorway to the living room would not solve anything, and would be expensive. There is a light switch 3.5" in, on the longer wall section. And on the short section there is an HVAC duct in that wall (into the living room, not the kitchen)

* There is soffit currently, and above the sink is an installed light. We think we'll leave the soffit intact right there to minimize electrical work. Upper cabinets can frame it. The window on the Purple wall (sink location) is 40.5 inches wide

Appliances we want:

~33 wide standard depth fridge (estimating 35" to the front of the handles)

Stove, standard (30" wide, maybe 32" to front of oven door handle)

Dishwasher, standard, 24" wide, needs to be adjacent to sink

We believe we'll get the Klearvue cabinets from Menards, it's like Ikea but I don't have to assemble every single thing! They offer 40" uppers and we'll do that for additional storage. They don't have a huge range of width: 9, 12, 15, 24, (30?? prob not), 36.

Thank you to any who feel like looking at this. I spent hours today placing symbolic tables and boxes and I feel pretty stuck.