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Are We Completely Insane?

5 years ago

Hello, all. First time poster. We are dipping our toes into the home building world, and I wanted to take the temperature of what the industry is like right now.

I worked for a luxury custom home builder in 2019, so I know enough about the process to be dangerous. He was also a big Build Science guy so I’m really into implementing some of those best practices. We are working on a spec book now, but don’t plan on building until Spring 2022.

We have a healthy down payment for a construction loan — but I’m hearing banks are not lending very readily for new home builds.

Also, what is going on with builders and supply? Is it really bad? ..... how bad? Haha.

(For reference, our plan is to build a 3800 sq ft slab on grade home with some upgraded materials. Nothing too crazy. I’m thinking about $200 a square foot out in rural north GA)

Thanks, folks! I look forward to learning from you all!

Comments (14)

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Without reading it, my answer to questions of this nature is always 'yes'.

  • 5 years ago

    Okay. Thanks. Just trying to get a read on the home building market.

  • 5 years ago

    My crystal ball is out for repairs, but the answer to most of you questions is 'yes'.

    When covid hit, most of us assumed real estate sales and building would come to a screeching halt and they did for a few weeks in some areas, but then it all went crazy and nearly a year later it is still crazy, with high demand, higher prices and limited inventory and materials.


    Start planning and looking at communities you would like to build in. Start looking at land/lots to get an idea of what is out there. Start networking, sometimes it helps to be acquainted with that little old lady that is selling the family land finally at 95 years old.

  • 5 years ago

    "I’m hearing banks are not lending very readily for new home builds."


    Maybe this is true regionally but in general, if you're not overbuilding for the area (value wise) nor overspending for the project, all lenders usually care about is that there is adequate security in the form of owner equity (value wise) and local market potential for resale to recover the loan amount and costs in the case of a default.

  • 5 years ago

    Spring 2022?


    Just yesterday, I was laughing with my hairdresser about our visit in mid-March 2020 when we had parted with a blithe "see you in five weeks!"

  • PRO
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Costs are rising much faster than the corresponding appraisal value of the build result. Bringing extra cash to the table because it won’t meet appraisals has always been a significant risk with custom builds. It’s a guaranteed certainty now. You will need both the standard 20% down to avoid PMI, and at least another 20% to cover contingencies, upgrades, and appraisal shortfalls. The crazy way costs are increasing, that extra 20% may not be enough!

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I question those who use the internet for assurance.

    Forums are great for information.

    The internet does not suffer fools kindly.

  • 5 years ago

    Following.


    Looking to build a duplex in central Florida for myself and my parents with my two children inheriting the home eventually. Even after reading various sources, I'm not sure if a new build is the way to go. Unfortunately for us, not many duplexs where we intend to move so it looks like building is the only way to go.


    Not sure if this is the wrong time to do this. We're on the more conservative side when it comes to budget and desires. We prefer a solidly built home with a simple but good layout (preferably a 3/2 duplex).


    Please let me know what happens on your end! The market is so hectic right now our main concern is the higher markup on everything which makes sense due to the demand, but obviously may not be good given we don't want to overpay and down the line the home not being worth what we spent. Again, very new to this.

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you to the experts and for those currently building for sharing your knowledge and experience - this will help us make a more informed decision, and confirms what I have already heard. This market is very different from the one I remember in 2019. Luckily a new build is a dream, not a necessity.

    To the trolls and rude people, I hope you find something meaningful to do with your time other than write nasty things on the internet.

  • 5 years ago

    Allison, I apologize for any rudeness. I just question whether information about the current market can be all that helpful. Interesting, certainly.

  • 5 years ago

    I appreciate that. We would love to build sooner, but with a new baby and this volatile market — a year out seemed wise. Also, as someone who worked in the industry, I know the invaluable benefit of having an extremely detailed plan.

  • 5 years ago

    Designer Kitchen and Bath's comment is spot on. If you are financing a custom build, be prepared to have extra cash to close the appraisal gap. And then more beyond that for your contingency fund.

  • 5 years ago

    We are almost at the end of a new build and windows (impact ones) are on back order and fireplace boxes too. We got lucky - however our builder says that windows aren’t coming till August that were ordered a while ago plus our fireplace boxes just came and we were almost going to have to “close” them temporarily to get our CO.
    Start early and plan for these delays would be my advice!!