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Hoya mail's here!

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

So! My extra large AH Hoya order arrived today and I'm kinda besides myself.... Definitely ordered too many because patience is not really one of my virtues but I'm really happy with everything, though a bit overwhelmed with the idea of taking care of them all. The roots weren't all great (expected) so send me all the good juju that you can that I keep them alive!


Forgot to rotate the picture with them all laid out so from the top, left to right here goes:
Spartioides, sigillatis
Minahassae, inflata, khroniana black
Blashernaezii, green apple melange (kinda hidden under blashernaezii)
A whole lotta picta!
AH-029
Greenii
Macrophylla 'BaiBua'
Callistophylla short leaf
Deykeae, crassipetiolata
Caudata, parasitical heart leaf splash
And a large carnosa red in a pear tree!


They're all going to be in LECA and will be left to their own devices for a bit while I go camping. Haven't been so nervous to go on vacation in my life!





Comments (25)

  • 5 years ago

    Oh my goodness what a haul!!! That’s awesome! They look great. 😍 Can’t wait to see more pics. Have fun camping.

  • 5 years ago

    Wow that haul is a bit overwhelming, but sure is a beautiful sight to see! I really like picta and the one that is circled here. For some reason that leaf-shape is my thang!


    I love dakeae. I have one but it only has four leaves and has not put out any new growth in the year that I have had it. I'm tempted to order another from one of these international outfits.

    I will be wishing you much root-success. Please update us in a couple of weeks once they get settled!

  • 5 years ago

    Wow, that's a lot of Hoyas! Beautiful, they look like they arrived in really good condition.

  • 5 years ago

    @popmama, I think you've circled parasitica heart leaf splash. I love the shape too! Picta has tiny leaves which remind me a little of a dischidia (close up pics at the end).

    Sharing a few other pics that I took in the hustle to get them settled before leaving the house. The callistophylla short leaf is shown with the measuring tape...I can't imagine how big the regular leaf gets if this is short! I love the veining on this one and AH-029.

    Inflata was bought purely in the hope that it will one day flower in my care, it was a pleasant surprise to find that the leaves have a soft velvety feel, plusher on the underside than on top!

  • 5 years ago

    @SLD, besides the roots being hit or miss, I'm really happy with how healthy the rest of the plants appeared! Considering the unpotting and de-pesting process that has to happen before they're shipped, I'm nothing but grateful. Some are a little lighter in color than expected but I think it's probably because they're grown in high sun. Very excited for new growth!

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you for the extra pictures! I am sure enjoying them. Ah Parasitica! That makes sense. I seem to be very drawn to that plant.

    Was that picta one plant or did you order multiples of that one? It looks so cute!

  • 5 years ago

    Great extra pictures! I love the picta too. Tons of hoyas!!! So awesome 🤩

  • 5 years ago

    Hello all, I hope that you've been enjoying Spring! We've had a few days of rain here in the Centennial state, followed by gorgeous sunny days in the 70s and now a bit more rain. I'm basking in the perfection that make these magical days before the real heat sets in for Summer.

    It's been about a month since my AH Hoya order arrived and I've had a chance to try some things. It's a good time for an update and to ask for you help if you have any feedback after reading this will of text that's about to ensue, please and thanks... Get a drink, settle in and share any wisdom yoy may have.

    As a quick recap, this order of about 17 types of hoya was a combination of two separate orders. I did end up getting a USDA permit which I hadn't originally planned on, but decided to try anyway because it's free. It came in handy when AH offered to combine my orders in one shipment, I had the labels and the permit to share with them. Some days after placing the first order, I had asked to not have the plants ship before 5/1 because I knew I would be away from home then but this request seemed to have gotten lost in the shuffle. No blame here, I didn't reiterate the request when I placed the second order, nor did I mention it when they recontacted me round mid April to request the permits; lesson learned for next time to speak up early! They ended up shipping everything on April 23. In following the tracking data available, the box was held in Florida for inspection by customs for 2 or 3 days which felt like FOREVER considering that I needed it to arrive before end of day on April 30 if it wasn't to be left in a mail box for a week. It finally arrived on April 29 to my great relief and you've seen the original pictures. I quickly unpacked everything that afternoon and let the roots soak in water with some SuperThrive for just under 24hours before parceling almost everyone into mason jars or takeout containers of LECA with a water reservoir. I had a LOT of picta, so some went into LECA, a few pieces into damp coir/perlite mix and a bunch were left in a jar of water. All the hoyas except this water jar of picta went into 2 large, clear plastic bins, sat on a heatmat with a layer of water coating the bottom of the bins. Both were half covered with their lids. I struggled with what to do here because I wanted to keep humidity high, but balanced with fresh air for the week. Both bins shared one set of 12-hour cycling grow lights.

    First, for the bad news: the spartioides and crassipetiolata are completely lost and gone to the great compost heap beyond. The crassipetiolata leaves and stem looked to have dried out completely. Spartioides kept losing leaves and the stem turned to mush. Both were in LECA for the first week and switched to plain water when I came back but they were too far gone.

    The fastest hoyas to root have been blashernaezii and AH-029 followed by callistophylla short leaf. AH-029 is probably my favorite of the bunch right now. The leaves are rigid with almost a frilled edge and beautifully veined with random splash. So many things I love about hoya in one!

    Picta, which was sent with many vines, has been a literal PAIN! Does anyone else struggle with rooting thin stemmed hoyas? My first attempts with aff. burtoniae have led to rotted stems and rotted roots right after transplanting. I think I have the beginning of viable roots on some of the picta cuttings for the first time in the coir/perlite mix and I'm cautiously optimistic, but everything prior has failed. The bundle left in plain water during the first week needed to be trimmed back due to mush and that lovely stash I started off with is now a few strands. I'm very sad. The stem of picta has a tendency to became dark and mushy while trying to root in LECA or straight, damp perlite. I now have a few cuttings in water that have done nothing for as while as other cuttings sharing the same jar rooted. We'll see how those turn out but your advice is appreciated, this is one picky hoya.

    Sigillatis, khroniana black and green apple melange have been fits and starts. After not taking to the LECA at all, green apple melange is now rooting beautifully in plain water, and khroniana in coir/perlite. Not sure what exactly sigillatis wants but we're trying plain water now and I'm hoping it does well. It was originally doing so well in LECA, then I lost all the roots to mold. Everyone else has been a bit slower but getting along with the rooting where they might be ready for planting in a week or two.

    I'm very happy with my AH order over all and and would order from them again. Probably in a much smaller batch just to make everything easier to manage and monitor. In the meantime, I'm excited to keep practicing propagation and maybe be ready for trading soon!

  • 5 years ago

    sunfleurpower, thanks for update. I love hearing what works and what doesn't work when it comes to rooting these plants. My spartioides lost all but two of its leaves, but it's hanging on. It's in expanded shale and in my Wardian case for extra humidity. I have my fingers crossed for that one! I would definitely order from them again ('cause you know I need a gazillion Hoyas).

  • 5 years ago

    Yes, thank you so much for the updates sunfleurpower. Your synopsis is another testament to my theory that there is not one single foolproof way. Sometimes you have to try one way and then adapt. You have done well with that!

    For what it's worth, burtonaie aff rooted for me by putting it straight into soil (not my normal chunky mix) and ignoring it for several weeks. I put it under my grow light and kept the soil somewhat moist but not damp.


  • 5 years ago

    Thanks SLD and popmama! I'm going try burtoniae in a more coir filled mix and see what happens.

    I did a bit of repotting the other day and everyone is still looking good, here are some pics, might have to do these in increments:

  • 5 years ago

    A few more. Only one cutting survived from sp. green apple melange

  • 5 years ago

    And a few more... with possibly a peduncle on callistophylla short leaf??! I'm very excited... I was able to make two nice pots of both callistophylla and blashernaezii






  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Almost forgot my favorite gal! AH-029! She's got a new growth point coming in. I think I'll leave her in LECA and see how she does.




  • 5 years ago

    Wow a peduncle already? Unreal! You win!


    They do look good.

    I really love daykeae. I hope it does well for you.

    That blashernaezii is very intriguing!

  • 5 years ago

    By the way, I love the updates. It's really helpful to me!

  • 5 years ago

    @popmama, now that deykeae has plumped up, I'm really liking her too! Hoping she starts making new leaves soon. I cut the bottom node and it's back in the prop box because somehow more robust roots grew on the stem above it and there was only one puny root coming in below. So odd these plants, it's like they've got their own personality sometimes...

    I loved the pictures of the flowers on blashernaezii and it was one of the strongest rooters in the bunch, hopefully a sign of prolific growth to come!

  • 5 years ago

    @sunfleurpower I came back to look at your updated pics. These are doing so well. Love the variety of hoyas. Great update and pics!!

  • 5 years ago

    My heart broke a little this weekend when my little cutting of h. sp green apple melange bit the dust. It was doing sooo well, or so I thought. I had it in a little clear plastic cup to see the root system form, and forming it was! Even thought I had spied a growth point about to start. Picked it up to see if it was watering time on Sunday and the leaf fell right off. Very nearly brought a tear to my eye. After unpotting, it looked like a lot of moisture was still focused around the stem which had turned a dark, brownish green and was mushy to the touch. A moment is silence for green apple.

    I think my mistake was too much coco coir, it stays wet far longer than I anticipate. I amended my mix with more grit: bark, perlite, volcanic rock, shale, just random things that I have around and repotted a few cuttings I thought might be in danger. Please send me your good juju so I don't kill anything more!

  • 5 years ago

    Aww... that is very sad. The roots do look really good. Is there any chance that stem might produce more leaves? Maybe?

  • 5 years ago

    Oh no!! That is very sad. I agree with PM, I’m thinking you might be able to grow the stem bc the roots look really good.

  • 5 years ago

    I am so sorry..Hate that.

  • 5 years ago

    Sunfleur, both of my Green Apples are still looking good. If they're both still doing well at the end of the summer, I can send you one :-)

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks All, I appreciate the solidarity.

    SLD that's a very generous offer, thank you! I'd be happy to negotiate a trade 😁 with some luck, I'll have healthy hoyas to share by summer's end.

    I went back and felt the stem, because I thought of Bill's story of hoya revival and it gave me hope. The stem was completely hollow except for the part where the leaf had been attached, which was mushy and gross. Oozing hoya bits are the worst 🤢 so I think that was my closure.

    In better news, deykeae has a new funky leaf growing in! It's kinda cute in it's oddness!

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