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Debating Batt vs. Blown Attic Insulation for summer heat

5 years ago

After switching from a wood shake to composite roof a few years ago, we have noticed that on summer afternoons here in California (no A/C), after the roof has been baking in the sun, the heat is radiating down into the house much more than before.


We have old, insufficient insulation in the attic, and we will have a contractor install new insulation.


We have had different suggestions from different contractors. We are trying to weigh the pros/cons of Batts and Blown in insulation (R38-R44) and these are the factors we are considering:


Blown-in-- seems like would better completely cover the surface including joists, which probably are conducting heat to the ceiling. The concern with blown-in is that it will make it more likely that future access to the attic (for electrical work, for example) will be more difficult and likely upset the insulation, whereas batts would be easier to work around and properly replace.


Fiberglass Batts, placed between the joists would protrude higher than the joists but not covering them. I've been told that the material will expand to cover the joists, but I'm not convinced of that.


I am guessing that regardless of what we choose we will notice an improvement, but any knowledgeable advice on this would be much appreciated.

Thanks.




Comments (9)

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I blew 1000 pounds of cellulose insulation in my attic in about 4 hours. Cost was $500. It's a pretty easy though dusty project, kind of like blowing out dust from a vacuum cleaner. Cellulose is much nicer than fiberglass and better R-value. More info if you like or hit youtube.


    Or read some reviews from what I used...

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Greenfiber-All-Borate-Cellulose-Blow-In-Insulation-30-lbs-36-Bags-INS765LD/300584221

    newkou thanked badabing2
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Mini-Split has once again seemingly plagiarized an answer from another site without attribution. (Or does he suggest they copied him, this time?)

    Exactly same general answer

  • 5 years ago

    Why batt ceiling insulation covers over roof joists is that is full width material so if your joists are 24” on center your material is 24” and will be a little squished between studs but should expand to fill in above the wood.

    blow has air blown into it when it travels down the hose but when you have to walk or crawl through it deflates reducing air spaces and insulation value.

    You might look into radiant barrior sheathing applied to rafter part of truss(right under sheathing) it really works well in hot summer climates. Then there’s spray foam which puts your ducting in your building envelope and makes a seal that fiberglass and cellulose never will.

    newkou thanked mojavemaria
  • 5 years ago

    I had the same experience in coastal Calfornia, a switch from cedar shingles to a composite roofing material significantly increased late afternoon heat radiation from the attic, even though our attic insulation was at code. Even with beefed up ,attic venting. A large insulation contractor in my area suggested fiberglass batts, talked me out of crawl space insulation (no bang for the buck), and got the job. The effect is huge. More so in the summer than winter because the temperature difference between the attic and the house interior is much greater in summer than in winter.


    Make sure you have enough attic venting too, that matters.


    The thing about blown in is that baffles need to be carefully installed so as not to block eave vents, if present.

    newkou thanked Elmer J Fudd
  • 5 years ago

    I'd go with batts. They are more expensive but there's a reason for that! Your Pro/Con list is pretty accurate although the bats will protrude above the average ceiling/attic joist so there should be little or no negative effect on R-value.

    newkou thanked sktn77a
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks everyone for the helpful comments.


    Yes. We have a ridge vent on top of the roof and soffit vents for intake. The intakes have been painted, maybe more than once, and many of the spaces in the meshes are visibly reduced, some blocked completely. So cleaning (if possible) or replacement of the soffit vents is definitely on tap. Though the roofing contractor estimated the number of soffit vents is sufficient, I am not sure this is the case, and the blocked vents should have been flagged. (Otherwise, the roofing job was fine, though I wish we had more information upfront on the potential for the summer heat problem. We may have chosen a lighter roof color or one with more reflectivity of solar heat. Had no idea how easily the wood shake roof "breathed".)


    Another potential mitigation--when we get some solar panels (another project some day), the hottest part of the roof facing the sun will be shaded.



  • 4 years ago

    End of summer update. We had R38 Batts installed at the beginning of July. The improvement was immediate. Even on the hottest of days, the inside of the house never really got above 75, and the whole house feels much cooler, probably because we are not exposed to the hot ceilings. Should have done this years ago! We're looking forward to seeing how our insulation makes the house different when we start heating.

  • 4 years ago

    Glad you've had good luck. As I mentioned in my first comment above, where I mentioned I did the same as you under the same circumstances and for the same reason. As above, I have found the benefit is much greater in the summer than in the winter. Because the temperature difference between the interior and the attic where I am is much greater in the summer than in the winter, so the insulation is more important to have. A 40-50 degree or more summertime difference wouldn't be unusual. In the winter, the difference is typically not even 30 degrees at worst and then only for a few hours overnight, until sunrise starts to warm the attic.


    If you're inland with higher summer temps and lower winter temperatures, your experience could differ from mine. Good luck.