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Raised beds collapsing--need advice.

5 years ago

I had multiple raised beds installed by a friend. He decided to make them double-height, using Emsco Brown Resin Raised Garden Bed kits--they look sort of like wooden planks, but plastic. That was great the first year, but the weight of soil within them is causing them to bulge way out at the joints. (It's obvious that they were not intended to be used this way.)


The joints are held in place by pins, but the pins are now sort of diagonal, several inches away from lining up vertically, so there's no way to just push them into place and drive some sort of rod through both layers of "plank." If I removed the planks, of course the soil would spill all over the yard.


I'm considering constructing a low wall of cement blocks around the quite lengthy perimeter. Any thoughts on what type of blocks to use, and whether or not they'd be strong enough to support the weight of soil if the raised beds' sides eventually collapse outward? (I'd make sure reinforcing rods were used.)


Any ideas about other ways to deal with this problem?

Comments (11)

  • 5 years ago

    Do they truly need to be double height?

    mainegrammy thanked cecily 7A
  • 5 years ago

    Well, they were double height last year and this year. They are filled with excellent soil, and most of my seeds have been planted.


    The dirt in my yard is extremely rocky. I wanted to make absolutely sure all my plants' roots would have plenty of room to grow before hitting gravel, rocks, and smallish boulders. Probably I'm paranoid, since vegetable roots don't tend to be that deep. But that's why the raised beds are so deep.


    Yes, I could hire someone to shovel out one height-worth of soil and spread it... somewhere (small yard). But I'd really prefer not to do that, if it's at all possible to stabilize the raised beds as they are.


    I've considered driving stakes or rebar into the ground beside every "sag," but even thin plant stakes hit rocks before getting more than an inch or two into the ground. It's really a challenge to place them.

  • 5 years ago

    What are the dimensions of the bed? Would a board inside the middle of the bed connected to both sides work?

    tj


    mainegrammy thanked tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
  • 5 years ago

    The bed is 48 feet long and 4 feet wide. It was created by placing commercial plastic raised bed kits side by side along one side of my back yard. The kits were also stacked one atop another, the whole way.


    There's a kind of wooden strap that attaches the tops of the beds across the dirt--at the top, not all the way from top to bottom. So it just holds the tops together.


    I'd love to get some sort of board in there (its width equal to the depth of the soil), but it would need to be attached from the exterior of each bed... which seems impossible.


    Finally took photos... You can see how each "bed" is actually two one-bed kits, stacked one on top of the other. The row keeps going... 12 4x4 beds in all. The farther from the ends you look, the more the top and bottom sides are bowing out from the pressure of the soil within them.


    Below, you can see that the corners are stable (thus far, anyhow).


  • 5 years ago

    Hammer 2x2 boards down inside and screw them down. Those top wood supports aren’t helping the problem. They seems to be pulling the tops in.


    mainegrammy thanked suedonim75
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you! That seems like a very reasonable approach. It'll have to wait until fall or next spring, so we could shovel half the soil from each raised bed, in order to open up the interior to screw in the bottom horizontal pieces.


    What a mess my friend created for me, with the best of intentions!

  • 5 years ago

    You could screw the bottom pieces in from the outside.

    mainegrammy thanked suedonim75
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Good idea to use boards, maybe 2x2s, for structural support. But why put them on the inside? Put them on the outside, and then you won't need to dig anything out. If the planks are too thin to have good purchase on screw threads, just bolt the supports to the planks. You could do that NOW. Another advantage of putting them on the outside is that you won't have wood structural supports buried in soil.

    mainegrammy thanked daninthedirt (USDA 9a, HZ9, CentTX, Sunset z30, Cfa)
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you! I'll mention this to my friend. And maybe he could somehow push the bulging sides in a bit while doing that. (I picture a gentle sledgehammer, but on second thought, that's an oxymoron!).

  • 5 years ago

    Makes sense! Thank you--I'll send this info to my friend.