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Dying lemon tree bought week ago

5 years ago

Hello,


I had a very (suspiciously ?) good deal last saturday for a 2 feet tall, 2 feet wide, fruit bearing lemon tree. The salesperson told me to put the tree outside and water everyday. I live in Hong Kong and it's the summer now, peak temperature in the sun can reach 35°C (95°F), usually between 85 to 95, and the humidity is 85+%

I left the tree outside were it get direct sunlight during noon for 2 hours, and indirect sunlight the rest of the time and watered about half liter everyday. After 3 days the leaves were starting to curl like a cigar, outside in, and looked dry. Fearing the tree was getting burned in the sun, i took it to a more shaded area and watered it again abundantly (about 2 liters, water coming out the bottom holes).

A few days later, it was getting worse, with the leaves still green and not falling, but curling more tightly and looking more dry. Hoping the rehydrate the plant from the bottom i left the pot sitting in a few inches of water for a while.

A few days later a friend told me it was suffering from overwatering. I stopped watering it, and repotted the plant a little later hoping to save the roots and remove as much of the damp soil as possible.

The root ball is small (smaller than I would expect for a little tree), and the soil is very heavy and dense, like clay, and damp. Please check the pictures (colors are more bright than reality).

I went back to the shop yesterday looking for advice, the owner was very defensive, accusing me of not caring for the plant properly (changing pot and soil, putting it in the shade with not enough water).


To sum up, new tree bought in what looked like a healthy condition, left it in the sun for 3 days with moderate (?) water, in the shade 3 days with a lot of water, repotted and haven't watered since. Pictures are just taken now.


I'm thinking my friend was correct and I did overwater the tree, considering the dark roots, and very damp and dense soil (still damp after a few days of no water). However the leaves did not turn yellow, and did not fall, fruits are still attached.


Is there still hope to bring back the tree ? What should I do ? What do you think caused this?







Comments (17)

  • 5 years ago

    Bone dry. No wonder it's looking that bad. Good luck.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Usually this is how a tree looks when there is a lack of water.

    Too small photos - I can't see what's with the roots.

    Perhaps the roots are overheated in the sun and boiled.

    You can try to revive the tree as it is.

    Pluck fruits, put in the shade, spray with water, remove rotten roots, soil - peat with perlite 1:1, water sparingly.

  • 5 years ago

    Hot temps + hot sun = dehydrated leaves and fruits. I'm guessing this tree was indoors at the place where you bought it ? It probably wasn't used to being outdoors. Do what Alex said, and good luck.

  • 5 years ago

    I agree with everyone else that the tree looks dried out. If the soil was more clay, the clay could have hardened around the roots so that the soil in the pot appeared wet, while the mass of the rootball is dry. Personally, I would soak the rootball until that clay loosened, then remove as much as I can and repot into a looser medium. Expect lost leaves and some dieback. As long as the branches haven't dried out, you still might be able to save the tree.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Water deeply not sparingly. Make sure it never dries out completely especially in your heat and do not water in sips. Soak the pot under water if you decide not to change the mix out and let it absorb the moisture.. If you change the mix make sure to remove all the bad stuff from the root zone while you hold that root ball under water.

    That is the proper way to water especially in such a fine mix that holds salts.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Thanks a lot for your help!

    Following your advice, I plucked the fruits and dipped the root ball in warm water for 20 min and tried to wash off as much clay and dead roots as possible. The previous soil was really just compacted mud. I have not dealt with root rot before but it didn't look like the roots where dead or rotting, not black or foul smelling, still holding together strongly and not rotting away. However they don't seem as bright as I've seen in other pictures so i don't know. Pics attached below.

    New soil is much lighter, and I believe a peat and perlite mix.


    I'm surprised a healthy lemon tree would react so poorly to being under full sun for a few hours everyday over a 3 day period when I was still watering it half a liter daily, then almost 2 liters everyday for 2,3 days when in the shade, and then stopped fearing overwatering for the following 4 days until now when the soil was finally getting drier, the soil was always moist, at least on the outside.


    I hope it can recover from the water stress and the successive repotting. Branches don't seem to dry, hopefully it can bounce back.


    If you have any more tip, they would be very appreciated. Thanks !




  • 5 years ago

    To answer a question, I bought the tree in a shop where it was left outside in a pretty shaded area, I'm not sure how much direct sun it was getting, if any, or how much water they were giving (they said every day, but didn't specify an amount).


    Which makes me wonder how much I should water now ? I've put roughly 1 liter after the repotting to wet the new soil, and the roots were coming off the dip. Do you have an idea of an appropriate amount ? Should I mist considering the high temperature and humidity ?


    Thanks folks!

  • 5 years ago

    Alex, in response to your comment about a healthy tree reacting so poorly, sometimes the heat and light of direct sunlight if the plant is in shade can stress the tree, and you'll see some leaf drop. More likely, and my best guess on, what happened, (especially if it was in dense soil), is that the root ball dried out and the clay hardened. Then, when you watered the tree, most of the water ran over the sides of the pot and not through the rootball. Take a lump of clay and let it dry in the sun, then pour a bunch of water over it and break it. You'll notice that the water doesn't really penetrate the clay. The same thing happens with houseplants when they get too dry, the soil becomes hydrophobic and water runs over the surface of the soil without reaching the roots. It's why it's important to soak a plant that's gotten too dry. More than likely the clay hardened, the roots got dry, and then the heat dried out the leaves. Still possible to save a tree like that.

  • 5 years ago

    Just as we have to protect our trees in the winter cold , you have to protect your trees in the stifling heat. No plants in a pot actively growing that I grow can take the extremes of either cold or heat. I even protect most of my plants from extreme hot sun and I live in New England. They would croak if I left them exposed to severe heat day in and out.

  • 5 years ago

    Hello Everyone.

    Its a month later without any change and then all of the sudden a bunch of fresh leaves sprouted at the base of the stem:



    Very glad I didn't throw it away, but I am wondering how to take care of it now ?

    I've cleared the dead leaves and branches on top and I keep the soil moist and keep the watering to a minimum (once every 2 weeks, it's still 80%+ humidity here).



    Any advice at this stage ? Should I prune more ? fertilize ? Keep water to a minimum ?


    Thanks again for all your help.


    Alex

  • 5 years ago

    At this stage I would leave the tree alone. Keep the soil moist (not overly wet) and wait to see if the tree begins to reproduce new foliage. It could be up to a couple week to a month.

    Alex HK thanked Silica
  • 5 years ago

    Do you know if the tree was grafted, seed grown or a cutting? If it was seed grown or a cutting, then your tree is growing back. If it's grafted, then I would make sure new growth is coming from above the graft line. Trees can come back from a lot, and total defoliation is not always a death sentence. As long as some part of your tree is still alive, it can grow back. If it were me, at this point, I would just keep doing what you're doing, try to water less on a schedule and more by when the soil is more dry, but I tend to go with a philosophy of if it isn't broken, don't fix it. Then fertilize once the leaves and growth are a bit bigger.

    Alex HK thanked bonsai_citrus_and_indoor_gardening
  • 5 years ago

    A tree in that condition that then sends out new growth from real low like that is probably growing from the rootstock. If you give a better pic zoomed in towards the new growth and a few inches above and below it we may be able to see if it is rootstock.

  • 5 years ago

    Hi. Take a close up view of all side bottom part. Curious if that’s the root stock or the grafted part coming back. The leaves look like the grafted portion. If so you are pretty lucky

  • 5 years ago

    looks like a rooted cutting.

  • 5 years ago

    I agree, no signs of a graft line on that pic, suspect a rooted cutting. Looks like persistence and proper care paid off!

    Alex HK thanked bob_15