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Kitchen Lighting Help and Outlet Placement

5 years ago

I need some advice on lighting and outlets - specifically task lighting and accent lighting.

  1. Ambient light - we will have recessed LEDs in the ceiling.

  2. Task lighting - I want under cabinet lights and outlets but only have 1 upper cabinet. However, I will have a single shelf that runs along the open walls. Can I put strip LED lights on the underside of a marble shelf? What about the outlets? Is there a way to put those under the shelf too? I don’t know where the wires would go.

  3. Accent lighting - I wanted to put sconces on either side of each window - we have a sink under one window and the stove under the other window. (I know the stove/window is controversial. It is the only logical place for it and it’s staying there. Yes it’s to code in my area.)

However, I realize that I can’t have a sconce to the left of the stove because there’s not room. I see that I have 3 options. A) put one sconce to the right of the window B) put two lights on the wall over the shelf C) put one light over the shelf.

On the sink wall I could do my original plan of a sconce on either side of the window or I could do a light over the shelf.

Also what about the space to the left of the stove? Will it be too dark without any accent lighting over there?

Below is the layout and I’ve mocked up one of the ideas. Let me know your thoughts. Wiring for lights happens Monday so I need to figure out soon.

Comments (7)

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    IMO with just one wall cabinet I would not bother with under cabinet lighting IMO wall sconces are accent light at best and in a kitchen really what you need is lighting like an operating room and on dimmers if you want. I would not have put the range under that window regardless of it passing code . The window cannot open for sure and you had a whole wall there to place the range with proper venting . A space needs balance not symmetry all the time but balance I need to see the drawings of all those walls showing the cabinets. Who designed this kitchen?

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for your response. I agree to skip the under cabinet lights. I think I’ve decided to do 1 light over the shelf to the right of the stove, a light to the left of the sink and a light at the same height to the right of the sink. How does that sound? Alternately I could do a total of 5 lights - 2 to the right of the stove, 2 to the left of the sink, 1 to the right of the sink.

    I had a designer and an architect do drawings. The architect put the stove in the corner which I hated. I have a vintage Chambers stove that is 37.5” wide. There is literally no where else to put it. We have been through tens of iterations. We are going to do a ceiling vent (again I know it’s not ideal. I’ve read all about it but it’s what we have to do). If I put the stove on the wall where the sink is now it pushes the kitchen too far down into the dining area. If I put it where the refrigerator is I have to put the fridge down into the dining area - which I also don’t want to do.

    Why wouldn’t I be able to open the window? I was planning on doing a casement window over the stove so it can easily be opened.

    Here’s a pic of the kitchen now that it’s been demoed. We removed the wall between kitchen and dining room.

  • 5 years ago

    I hate refrigerators and want it as much hidden as possible so that is why it is to the far left in the layout.

  • 5 years ago

    A few more notes - the stove will not fit to the right of the window. Sadly we tried but it was pushed up against the wall.

    Below are revised rough sketch of where I’d put the lights as well as the lights I’m looking at. There will be 2 pleated ones over the island. The island is more of a work table ywithout seating. It is only 36”x 60”. The blue box on the floor represents the island with a 42” clearance from the cabinets. The other lights are the ones for the wall over the shelf.

    Thanks so much for your help. :)

  • 5 years ago

    I would just put one above each window.

  • 5 years ago

    It would be useful to do an overhead layout of your space. Task lighting is pretty important for work areas in a kitchen. 450 lumens at the counter is recommended. And the source should be located so you don't create a shadow with your body on the space you're cutting something with a knife, for example. Small 3-4" led recessed cans 6-8" in from the edge of the counter is a good location.

  • 5 years ago

    When you say “6-8” in from the edge of the counter” do you mean in towards the center of the room or out towards the perimeter?