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help with granite ID + lowering breakfast bar

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

Hi! We are contemplating a kitchen refresh as I’d like to change a few of things (but also limit the scope of the project). I’ve attached photos; Overhead lighting is 2700K and I'm in the process of changing to 3000k. Tried 4000k but it was much to blue/bright in our very warm house.

  1. If we can find a matching granite slab, I’d love to lower the breakfast bar so that our peninsula is a level surface. While it would be fabulous to replace all of our counters, I don’t think that that’s in the cards. And I’m guessing it wouldn’t look right to have a different material/color on the peninsula. We also kinda like our granite since it has nice movement and the colors go well with the house. [I’d describe our granite as having a cream base with golds, dark warm browns, dark warm greys/almost black. No burgundy. There are whispers of dark orange/rust colors, but nothing significant. No white or light off white.] ..... So, my question is:
    —->>> What kind of granite do I have? Does it look like ABSOLUTE CREAM? Or maybe it’s PERSONATUS? (I’ll attach pics of absolute cream and personatus in the first comment).I don’t think it’s FIESTA GOLD, VENETIAN GOLD, or NEW VENETIAN GOLD since those pattern looks more dense/even.
  2. The second thing I really want to do is redo the backsplash to a cream since the undertone of the travertine leans pink. I don’t love the main cabinet color (and glaze) but it actually works with the granite. (The lighting is terribly even in these pics (i.e. in first pic, look at the cabinet to the left of the fridge. The top cabinet looks completely different from the base. They are the same color IRL. It may not be easy to tell the undertones in the pics. The cabinets have a dirty yellow almost green undertone, at least to me. I'm trying to see if I can avoid repainting the perimeter cabinets by changing the splash.
  3. I also want to paint the island because as is, the dark wood stain doesn't look great and looks a little grubby. The cabinets are in good condition. I am leaning toward SW Urbane Bronze.

Anyway, I’d love help in ID’ing this granite so I have a starting point to see if it’s even feasible to find a matching slab. TIA!






Comments (10)

  • 5 years ago

    Two possible matches?

  • 5 years ago

    I apologize for the typos in my post… hopefully you got the gist of what I was trying to say. 😜

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    You are unlikely to find the granite that matches; and close enough will still be off. What's gained by lowering the counter? I would keep as is and update other elements.

  • 5 years ago
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    It looks like Bianco Antico granite or Bianco Delicatus granite, given the amount of white chunks. Those two names are sometimes used interchangeably at stoneyards. In any case, Bianco Antico and Bianco Delicatus vary hugely slab to slab, as do most granites. I think you are unlikely to find a match. Go to a stoneyard and see what is there, but with better pictures than you've posted. The light is so bad on the granite in the OP photos that it's hard to really tell what they look like.

    If it were me, I'd just do your item #2, and not do the big project of the 2-tier counter. I also don't think painting your island "urbane bronze" will do anything, except quite likely look worse than what you have. The first on my list - which you don't mention - would be to paint the crown molding at the ceiling to match the cream wall paint. Your lighting needs improvement as well, as you note.









  • 5 years ago

    Skippack -- Thanks for the reply. I guess I figure it wouldn't hurt to try and see if there's anything available. I'm just looking to see if anyone recognizes the color/type of granite we have to help with the search. The ones I posted look to be close to what I have so I can maybe check granite suppliers near me.. :: As for what we'd gain by lowering the breakfast bar, our kitchen is on the small size (based on the size of our house). However, that didn't bother us when we moved in 7 years ago. I'm not an avid baker or chef so I don't need a lot of storage or work space, and the pantry is quite large so that helps even things out. Lowering the counter would open up the kitchen space visually and provide a single flat work surface to have instead of two smaller flat spaces. I also think the two height kitchen counter/bar combo makes the space look dated. I can't imagine new constuction or full remodels putting in breakfast bars now a days?? I'll attach a couple of pics to show the feeling of openess.


    If I'm not able to find a granite match, then so be it, I can live with the breakfast bar. If I found a granite I loved, I'd be pushing more for a full counter redo. As it is, I'm not interested in quartzite, marble or solid surface, and there isn't a simple lighter granite that I've found (exists?) that I love.


    Thanks again!






  • 5 years ago
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    If you make the breakfast bar all one level, how will you redo the cabinetry side that faces the living room? Also, if you have electrical outlets in the riser of the top tier of the bar, what will you do about them? Building Code specifies a certain amount of electrical outlets spaced in a kitchen.

    Please explain why you want the color Urbane Bronze on the island. Does it relate to anything else in the kitchen? How would that color change significantly the island cabinet color that is there now? If you paint the island cabinetry Urbane Bronze, what will you do with the crown molding which appears to match the current island cabinet color?





  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Post a dimensioned drawing so we can see if it's feasible to turn your island into a matching bar, then buy a contrasing replacement island please.

  • 5 years ago

    @Shannon_WI -- I think it very well could be Bianco Antico. It looks similiar enough to me to warrant looking at some slabs; that seems like a more common granite than the ones I posted. Thank you!


    You mention the lighting being "so bad..." however, our kitchen does not have any windows along its perimeter so it is going to be a little darker than the typical trendy white/bright/airy kitchens that abound these boards. Our house was built in 2006 and we bought it preowned. It is filled with warm tones (that I've worked to tone down where feasible) and I'm in the process of changing the overhead lights from 2700k to 3000k. I doubt the 300k increase wil change my photos much.... I'd be better off brining the photo up in Lightroom and adjusting the white balance and curves there to get the look you are wanting... I don't think I'll take the time to do that. ;) The first photo with the granite is pretty spot on to what it looks like. There is no white or light off-white in it. It has very creamy tones, plus browns with some hints of dark greige. The second photo could be lightened up a bit but I included it to show the pattern better.


    Although I wasn't looking for feedback on our crown molding, we have no interest in painting it. The adjoining family room and eat in kitchen have the stained wood crown molding, base boards, french doors, plantation shutters, and bookshelves. I would like to paint the bookshelves but my husband is a hard no on that. We do have lighter elements in these rooms to break up all of that wood and we like the cosy feel of our space.


    Thanks again for providing feedback. I'm not going to hold my breath until I find a matching slab, but I think it's at least worth a visit to a slab yard or two.



  • 5 years ago
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    @M Miller & @Shannon_WI -- RE the Urbane Bronze:

    Our island has been well loved for the last 15 years and could use a refresh of its finish, which is currently a medium brown slightly darker than the floor. As the island stands now, the stained wood has it blending into the floor, more than I would like.

    To make it stand out, I have two choices... paint it lighter OR paint it darker. If we AREN'T going to repaint all of the kitchen cabinets now (high probablity they are staying the same), then I don't think it makes sense to paint the island lighter as it would look odd if it didn't match the rest of the cabinets and I doubt we could replicate the exact color/look of glazed finish; nor would I want to since I haven't ever loved that finish to begin with.

    So, to get some contrast, I can go DARKER. I was originally thinking we could paint the island a medium-dark warm grey (Gauntlet Grey). However, after looking at the granite more closely, there isn't actually grey in it, so it felt like I was trying to force grey into the space. UB reads a greyish brown to me and that color IS in the granite and it would stand out against the floors.

    Also of note, around the corner from our kitchen, is the hallway to the garage where we have a built-in bench with drawers (you can see the entry into this hallway in the third pic of my OP). The built-in has a distressed black painted finish, The built-in would benefit from being repainted and I think it would be good to match it to the island color for some continuity. Also, our kitchen opens to our family room which has a stone fireplace with a mixture of large rectangle and sqare Oklahoma Brown and Blue (grey) Sandstone.


    Let me see if I can find a pic of these spaces....



    The bench pic is from BEFORE we moved in (in 2014). I had to use my wide angle lens to get this shot, given the tight space of the hallway, so not a great pic. For reference, the garage is to the right, kitchen is toward the left, laundry room behind me. These walls have since been repainted and they are the same color as the kitchen walls (Valspar Coconut Milk, which is similar to SW Maison Blanche). I'm not sure why the bench was painted black to begin with as there's nothing else painted black. There's also a built-in kitchen desk in this hallway and I'm considreing painting the base of the desk to match the island and repainted bench. The desk cabinetry is currently painted the same as the kitchen cabinets (glazed finish).



    The family room (please pardon the poor quality pic from my camera roll; it's what I have at the moment. That fan is no longer there.)... the walls here are also Coconut Milk.



    This is just to show you the colors in this space. We aren't looking for input on whether or not to paint any of the trim or woodwork in the family room. That's not on the table, as much as I'd like to paint the built-ins (I did manage to add light grey to the backs of the bookcases, but that's as far as I can take it for now) or replace the doors with ones with less wood.


    I'll address Urbane Bronze examples in the next post...

  • 5 years ago

    It appears that your sink is on the other side of the breakfast bar raised part? See how it hides your drying dishes... don't know how important that is to you as it sounds like you have some what an open concept.