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looking for help to positively identify a potted palm

5 years ago

Hi there:


I have been going under the assumption that I have a parlor palm (Chamaedorea elegans). The plant has become infested with spider mites and I brought it outside to spray with a water jet. However, I discovered the fronds are BARELY attached to the soil by the smallest of roots and I'm afraid they will detach at any moment. Since I've never encountered discussion of this with a parlor palm, I suspect it may be something else.


I haven't found a site which gives detailed descriptions of palms so I'm hoping that you, O Collective Plant Wisdom, might be able to tell from these photos if this is indeed a parlor palm or if not, what it might be.


I also noted that the last two leaves on each frond are joined at the base...


Thanks for the help!

junglelibrarian




Comments (15)

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    It certainly does look like a parlor palm with spiderrmites and some stem rot.

    Water is not going to resolve the spidermites; get a miticide and use it every 4 days for 20 days.

    Water the plant less, and hopefully the rotting will subside.

    junglelibrarian thanked iochroma
  • 5 years ago

    Also compare to C. cataractarum (cat palm). Either way, they should be fine leaning, but could get sunburned outside if not used to that much light.

    junglelibrarian thanked Tiffany, purpleinopp Z8b Opp, AL
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks iochroma and Tiffany! This plant has only been outside for the past five days (propped up against my steps on the north side of my house in constant deep shade). It has other wise spent its entire life inside the library where I work and where it hasn't been watered very regularly. The spider mites came in on some hibiscus which a volunteer wintered over here (against my will).

    Are the roots supposed to be exposed like that? Should I top dress and cover them?

  • 5 years ago

    Bring it back inside.

    Alternately, toss it into the compost.

  • 5 years ago

    I live in Massachusetts so if I DON'T bring it back inside it'll definitely be compost by next spring.

  • 5 years ago

    In my experience the presence of mites is an identification character for parlor palm. Even ones that are the only plants inside a bank or cafe will have immediately apparent infestations. Often so bad that they are partly brown.


    junglelibrarian thanked Embothrium
  • 5 years ago

    That was part of why I thought it was a parlor palm. But the look of the base of the stalks seems so different to what I've seen on parlor palms - more of a cluster of fronds than a proper stalk and I can't find anywhere online that describes the specific morphology of these plants...

  • 5 years ago

    As others have said, they plant many seedlings in the same pot to give the appearance of a full plant.

    That is such a crappy looking plant, I would just put it in the compost.

  • 5 years ago

    Well, we've had it here in the Library for nearly 15 years and grew it from a tiny plant. When I throw things out (or just remove them from the general population for care) patrons freak out. They are attached to seeing the same plants! Plus I'm interested to see if I can bring it back (just for the education of it). It's a big building so there's no trouble keeping it isolated from the rest of the plant population, no spreading the mites isn't as big a risk as it would be at home.

  • 5 years ago

    I don't think it looks crappy.

    junglelibrarian thanked Tiffany, purpleinopp Z8b Opp, AL
  • 5 years ago

    Clean it up. Pull all the brown old fronds off. Add some potting soil to cover the palm bases. Give it some fert. Treat with a spray or regular water sprays for mites. It should improve.

    junglelibrarian thanked Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
  • 5 years ago

    Luckily there are no old brown fronds - that hasn't been a problem (other than the occasional finally just got old fronds through the years).

  • 5 years ago

    I think he meant the stumps of the leaves that are no longer there. They are easiest to peel, rather than pull. Loosen one side/corner of the lowest stump, then peel it sideways across the trunk and it should come off cleanly. They are easier if you do them in order, starting at the bottom.

  • 5 years ago

    My pleasure! I've always preferred my palms that way, peeled, but not everyone does.

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