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UK native ID please

I collected seed of this plant during the summer.

Problem is I can't remember what plant it is or where I collected it.

Any ideas, guys?





Note the baby cyclamen

TIA

Fof


ps. floral. The Cornish hedge should be finished next week. Where should I post the pics?

Comments (14)

  • 4 years ago

    I really can’t think of anything native that those could be. Sorry. Cute baby. Is that from those big old chewed corky corms you showed us?


    Just bung the hedge on here. I’m sure nobody will mind. Or you could put it under Landscape.

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 4 years ago

    Hi floral.

    Yes that itsy-bitsy tiny cyclamen is one of about 1/2 doz that have popped up.

    The oldies are all in full leaf and one has a red/pink flower developing.

    OK. Watch this space for the hedge.

  • 4 years ago

    Strange they are in full leaf. Mine are in full flower and leaves will come later.

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 4 years ago

    Mine are half and half. The intentionally planted ones in more shade are in flower. The unintentional self-seeded ones in the middle of the lawn have finished flowering and are now in leaf.

    This is the first year those have appeared. I am surprised they are growing in so much sun...the sunniest spot in my mostly shaded garden. I'm gonna move them soon.

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 4 years ago

    Those old timers were in a bed which contained that Fuchsia, that was heavily infested with Fuchsia mite, ivy and weeds. I had spotted 1 corm sitting right on the surface, and suspected that it was dead. Once I cleared everthing out, ready to rebuild, I discovered that there were, in fact 10 corms, 1 of which was dead.

    This is the only one with any sign of flowers (2), so far. The rest are going gangbusters with just foliage. Making up for lost time???


    Another forum I posted to, IDed the other as Silene dioca, red campion. Close but I now remember that they are, in fact, Silene latifolia, white campion. They were growing, in association with S. dioca, where the hedge will be.

  • 4 years ago

    I wondered about Silenes but wasn’t familiar with the seedling stages.





    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 4 years ago

    Well, my i/d that this was Silene laitifolia, has now been shot down in flames.

    It looks like the plant, with white flowers, I gathered the seed from, must have been a hybrid.




    Re. the Cyclamen. I think that these are C. coum. They have been in full leaf and flower all winter long. They are, only now, going over.


    Fof

  • 4 years ago

    The Cyclamen pictured above looks more like hederifolium from the leaves. Could you have two species?

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 4 years ago

    Hi floral

    Agreed the leaves are C. hederifolium looking.

    C. hederifolium apparently flowers from the end of autumn to the start of winter.

    C. coum are supposed to flower from mid-winter to spring.

    These old corms started flowering Oct/Nov'ish and are just starting to go over ready for their annual hibernation.

    Beyond that, I knows not. Do they hybridise? Somehow I doubt it.

  • 4 years ago

    I've been doing some more checking, and the flower structure, would appear to also indicate C. coum.

    According to Pacific Bulb Society, the flowers of C. h have auricles, while C. c doesn't.


    C. hederifolium

    (Image taken from Wiki)


    My beauties



    Fof


  • 4 years ago

    Hi Fof,

    that's a nice color for your cyclamen and I suspect it's a form of cyclamen persicum and not coum. I think they would be late winter flowering for you and also in foliage for a good part of the year depending on conditions.

    The silene does look like S. dioica, maybe you just popped off some seedpods of those rather than the white campion if they were growing together?

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked katob Z6ish, NE Pa
  • 4 years ago

    Cyclamen persicum is the least hardy of any of the cyclamen species and I doubt it has a year round presence in most of the UK. It most certainly doesn't in my very similar zone 9 climate!! There is a good reason it is commonly called "florist's cyclamen" :-)

    But there are a number of hardy species that bloom in late winter and into spring - alpinum, coum, balearicum, pseudibericum, etc. And they can hold their foliage for a good long time as well. I still have some wild seeded clumps of hederifolium in my lawn that are still in full leaf in midApril after several mowings.

    thefof Zone 8/9 UK thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 4 years ago


    From my garden...


    Hederifolium


    Persicum