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Time to commit to a granite- looking for input/help staying grounded

4 years ago

Hey there. I've been planning this remodel for 13 years and it is finally time for me to commit to a granite! I've been around since the days of garden web. I've tried to live by 'the Sweeby test'... "My suggestion was to try to figure out what you needed the element in question to contribute to your kitchen. To start by focusing on your kitchen as a whole, from a far-off hazy distance -- to wander off into your favorite kitchen fantasy and think about what it feels like, not what it looks like. (Your real kitchen please, not the one where Brad Pitt feeds you no-cal chocolates while George Clooney polishes the brass knobs on your Lacanche.) Then using mood words, describe what your dream kitchen feels like"


And so I went into the granite store with that in mind, looking for something that would add a calming bit of zen to my life. I live with teenagers who have OCD with bipolar tendencies, and I teach high school kiddos. I have plenty of drama in my life outside of my kitchen. So I walked into the granite store ready to buy some soapstone looking virginia mist or similar, suede, boring, restful, soothing.


Something happened in the granite shop- the first granite image is what I was planning to get... they only had honed and I was looking for more texture. The second is a quartzite (esmerelda) that I can't find information about. The last is a fabulously textured granite. The texture is more like what would occur in nature, and less like pitted paw prints that some sueded granites look like.


It sounds like an easy time to cross off the outliers and stick with the plan, but EVERYTHING I've chosen has been plain. Natural white oak floors. White cabinets. Stainless sink. White backsplash. Gray walls. Nothing sings. That's what gives me pause and makes me say... maybe something *should* sing.


The space- Gray walls, same floor, tile backsplash, white cabinets, stainless appliances/chimney hood, free from all singing (This is my neighbor's house. If my kitchen looked like this... I'd just paint. My kitchen is 40 years old.)


I would love your thoughts!












Comments (31)

  • 4 years ago

    I'm no expert, but the second photo of counter material (esmerelda?) scares me. I have a u-shaped kitchen, and living with how the fabricators would match up the pattern in each of the three sections of countertop would scare the ever-loving heck outta me because I wouldn't think that they would do a good job within the budget that I have. So that would be a big nope for me, unless my counter budget exceeded my cabinetry budget and I could afford several more slabs that I currently am planning to buy so I could get the right look.


    I have similar tastes - white oak floors in a natural stain, white maple shaker inset cabinetry and I am going with soapstone rather than a granite, quartz or quartzite. Stainless steel appliances.


    I haven't chosen my backsplash yet as nothing is installed. It will be the last thing that I choose, and it won't be the star of the show. The cabinetry, appliances and counter will all present a "look" and the rest of it will be punches of color with items that I own already.


    My current kitchen is from 1960-ish and the faces of the cabinets are plywood. What will make *my* heart sing is walking into a kitchen that I actually like, each and every day. So I'm okay with a slightly boring but timeless look.

  • 4 years ago

    The Esmerelda is so pretty and would look nice with your floors. the templating plan would be important but i wouldnt assume that it must be a catastrophe. are you committed to gray walls— another color might bring out the best in that granite.

  • 4 years ago

    The esmeralda has a lot of directionality to it. Will this be an issue in your kitchen? I don't know. Do you roll out cookies or pie crust? I don't know how that would work out with the textured granite. Just some random thoughts from me.

  • 4 years ago

    From your description I would use the 4th granite in gray and white. It has interesting movement but sounds like it will fit your kitchen. The green ones are pretty fabulous but you might get tired of them more quickly. I don’t mean to confuse you, but if you think you’d like soapstone, Silestone has a color that mimics soapstone beautifully.
    I’m a fan of granite and admire the highly unique ones but ultimately chose a soft grey-green to go with my ivory kitchen. If you had a huge center island the dramatic ones work on that, with plain counters on the perimeter.
    Classic, and classy is often seen as boring. Or it’s classic. It’s up to you.
    Here is my “plain” kitchen with wood floors and ivory cabinet. My granite is Typhoon Green.

  • 4 years ago

    Life is too short not to wear your diamonds whenever you want, even with boring wool slacks and silk shirt. Ditch the loafers and put on some killer heels too!


    You don't have a large kitchen. How much of that stone will you really see once you have all your stuff in the kitchen? Are you a really tidy person who keeps their counters clear? In a stone yard, you are looking at slabs like they are pieces of art, but once placed horizontally you don't quite get the same effect. Do you have anything else in your decor with similar colors to tie it into something else in the house?

  • 4 years ago

    My argument would be then that life is too boring to have everything grey and white except one thing. Commit to something other than white or grey for everything. If you commit to One unique finish it will still drive the design just as much as if you pick several, and you will have to live with One just as much as you will two.

  • 4 years ago

    Why not a cabinet other than white?


  • 4 years ago

    @RedRyder what pulls did you use in your kitchen? (sorry, slightly off topic!)

  • 4 years ago

    So many great thoughts! Cabinets arrived yesterday, which is why it is finally time to commit to a granite. I don't *have* to stick with gray walls, but since the whole house is already that color, it is one less decision to make, and it's something that is relatively easy to change out later.


    The green quartzite is very much like a work of art, so, while lovely, may not really be what works best for this space and function.


    We pretty much never do food prep straight on the countertop without some kind of mat or board or something, so the texture won't be an issue other than for filling out paperwork.


    The cost differential is probably enough to sway me, regardless, especially since it probably will take more product to do make the seams look right.


    I appreciate the comments, they are definitely helping me think about how the choices fit in with our personality, the space, and the choices that have already been made.

  • 4 years ago

    Oh yes. The ”Sweeby test”.

    You want calm and zen, but at the same time, not boring.

    #1 - Falls into that boring category for me.

    #2 - Gorgeous! Exciting! Not a calm feeling. It would definately cause me to have an “OCD” reaction if those wild, colorful streaks did not line up perfectly in the corners. I know there is probably zero chance on that happening.

    #3 - Hmmmm, now we are getting somewhere. Calm…yes. Boring…no. Running my hand over that cool swirling texture. Aaahhhh, this feels right.

  • 4 years ago
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    I am a green lover, having green granite myself, but I just don't like that slab. It's dramatic, but it's also moody. If what you want is "zen" -- that's about as far away as you can get.

    That said, there are many green stones that are quite calming and soothing. Costa esmeralda is one, which is what I have, but there are others.

    I think black and white is classic and timeless. I love black and white granites (still get occasionally lament that I didn't get Virginia Mist, which was my original plan), but #3 is just too busy IMO; you're not showing a wider shot of #4 so hard to tell if it's too busy. I don't think you can go wrong with #1. You can always jazz things up with bright pops of color/accessories -- any color is going to look terrific against that counter, but especially vibrant ones like red, cobalt, etc. Or, you can choose not to if you want to zen-out in there -- black counters and white cabinets together is a look that can stand on its own and is not boring. At all. In the right space. (That is the caveat -- in the right space, same as with any look).


    ETA: My kitchen refresh is not yet completed so only have one small shot of the counter, and it's not the best, but here is Costa Esmeralda against hickory cabinets. A quick net search will yield pics of mostly white + CE; white cabinets set this stone off beautifully. So, if you look at other stoneyards and stumble upon it, it's another one to consider. It has an incredibly soothing vibe -- it is a joy to prep on.






  • 4 years ago

    Thanks @mxk3 z5b_MI- yes I love pretty much all greens, and yours are lovely!


    To clarify, the 4th stone is a close up of the busier black and white stone, showing the texture. I've seen the same stone at several stone yards, but none of them had this kind of texture. For me, it almost looks like something you'd actually see on a hiking trip somewhere.

  • 4 years ago

    Zen for me would be the lowest maintenance countertop. Something indestructible so I don’t have to stress about guests or kids being able to mess it up.

  • 4 years ago

    Also - do you have hard water? If so, something lighter colored in natural stone so you can’t see the white residue, or something g indestructible you can just out video what on to remove the water stains might be easier/more zen time.

  • 4 years ago

    I just installed the Nero mist mine is honed
    I found one with lovely veining and it’s so nice try I have in my kitchen.
    I chose it because I had wanted the look of soapstone but in granite.
    The esmerelda is gorgeous but it would probably cost too much to take that risk.

  • 4 years ago

    The Esmerelda is beautiful, I was advised many years ago by a very wise women, that said if you have fine jewelry wear it every day no mater what, the hole point is for you and only you to feel good about yourself. If this counter top make you feel good and you want a little bling in your kitchen why not have it, you deserve it you’ve worked hard all your life it’s time for you have something nice.

  • 4 years ago

    Here are some photos to maybe help you to better visualize. All decisions are personal and if you fell in love, no one can tell you otherwise.  If you really love the Esmerelda (and it is gorgeous) I would suggest to use simpler things surrounding it, simpler backsplash so it can really sing.  I wouldn't use grey on the walls, either white or a white with green undertones very pale.  Add some natural elements, rattan shade or wooden accessories or wooden shelving above sink, brass hardware. Good luck!

  • 4 years ago

    Palimpsest , you made me laugh out loud ! Not necessary to explain your point . You were right on ! And having said that , it’s ok wearing grand jewels with plain old pants and shirt , just for laughs and because you can ! But ...for everyday use ...I would get tired of my boring kitchen with an over the top designed granite that belongs in a Hollywood kitchen ......hahaha but, if that’s what I want to pep up my kitchen , Id say go for it and laugh every day , your house should make you happy ....!

  • 4 years ago

    Honestly, I think you should stick with your original plan. You loved it for a reason. It’s easy to be swayed in the moment, and hard to focus with all those lovely choices, but ultimately, you will wish you hadn’t.

  • 4 years ago

    @Missb_remodeling They’re a discontinued style from Rustica in ORB. I got all my hardware on MyKnobs.com.

    I also wanted Costa Esmeralda for my kitchen but couldn’t find it. I was lucky to find the Typhoon green slabs. My granite guys said that the greens coming to them have gotten much brighter, like the ones in this post, and the grey-greens like mine and Costa Esmeralda are hard to find.

  • 4 years ago

    @chispa, you might not have noticed, but you changed the parameters in your analogy, you had her change her loafers to killer heels. That is like adding a second "non boring" finish, which is my point, that the finishes should all support each other in some way.

  • 4 years ago

    Don’t try to find a granite which goes with your chosen paint color. That’s backwards. Go look at granite, select one, and only then commit to a paint color. I had my kitchen redone several years ago. I asked my hubby what color he would like to see in our kitchen, and he said “green”. So I went to my preferred stone yard (not a store with small samples….an actual stone yard where I could see full slabs…..and found a stone with a good amount of subtle, not-too-bright green, some gray veining, and some white. Our cabinetry is white shaker, the island top is butcher-block, the floor is medium-stained oak and the walls are the light green from the granite.

  • 4 years ago

    I'm the kind of person who thinks lots of rocks are very pretty, but know that whatever you choose, eventually, is just a thing. Picking something like that after a lifetime of making safe choices may, indeed, just be a "reaction". I can't tell you what you're experiencing, but this was my experience.


    I would rather see the pie I'm making than the granite, or friendly faces or the buffet arrangement. If you're in love and you have the money, it's your life - maybe do it.


    After living with a nice granite for a while, I can tell you that I will never do it again. It was replaced, The kitchen itself was water damaged and had to be stripped out - I would have never thrown out something that expensive. But towards the end, I stopped seeing it's beauty and just saw its coldness; that every glass shattered if it fell and plates chipped from it's hardness.

  • 4 years ago

    @modpod - I can't see your photos.


    I've looked for photos of the Esmerelda installed, and mostly only find green granites.


  • 4 years ago
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    Costa Esmeralda can vary widely. It can be light and soft, it can be darker, it can vary from blue-green (which mine is) to yellow-green; I've seen an absolutely putrid pea-soup green hunk of it that I wouldn't take if I got it free, to mesmerizingly beautiful soft blue-green slabs. It's all over the place. This is one where you see one you like you tag it ASAP, it will be gone if you don't -- it's coveted and hard to find, at least around here.

    But, back to your choices -- I really don't think you should get that green slab, I think you will come to regret it. It's going to lock you in decorating/accessorizing and like I said, it's about as far away from a zen vibe as you can get, which is what you said you want.

    I agree with above poster who said stick to your original plan. I did not. I fell in love with that CE I have and just HAD to have it. Beautiful as it is, I struggle with pulling everything together and trying to get back on track with what my vision was (and still is); it will never match the vision I have in my head for what I wanted my kitchen to look like, and that is why I still occasionally lament the fact I didn't get the Virginia Mist I wanted. So stick with the plan -- it's been your plan for so long because it's what you truly want.


    ETA: Also agree with above poster who said pick the paint after the granite. Always pick paint last, it's the most easily changeable thing and by far far far less expense and grief to change down the line than "permanent" fixtures like the countertop.

  • 4 years ago

    I second sticking with your initial inspiration. If you really want calm zen don’t let yourself change course just because something is giving you butterflies. The butterflies will go away. Stay the course. You can bring in vibrant color with art or accessories that can change with your mood.

  • 4 years ago

    Not sure what happened, here are some photos.

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    Lafayette · More Info

    My kitchen is more contemporary than yours but has some similar elements- floors, cabinet color. Our counter selection is more directional than your granite but we love it (leathered 'nightfall'). Easy to maintain, soft to the touch- everyone comments on it. FWIW perimeter counters are leathered absolute black

  • 4 years ago
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    i agree with others, stick with your original plan. the black and white granite is beautiful and will fit your vision. and honestly not boring at all!!

    you can always add accessories to bring in your favorite color! think a utensil holder filler with your fav color spatulas, artwork, family photos, travel photos, bowl of lemons/limes... etc.

    totally agree to pick your paint last! and have a great lighting plan!!

    its going to look fab!!!

  • 4 years ago

    @modpod - your kitchen is lovely! @Hallett & Co - I think your countertop is exactly what OP needs for her house. You’ve done a terrific job keeping the contemporary feel with your choices. Gorgeous!