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Clearing out trees - here’s my view - privacy suggestions? Zone 5 IL

4 years ago

Sorry, I couldn’t get my other post to update so I started a new one. The tree line is almost cleared. Looking for some privacy ideas. Here is the view from my kitchen and my back porch. I do have some snowball bushes and viburnum up there now. I’d like to have something evergreen, but would be open to flowering and/or shade trees.

Comments (20)

  • 4 years ago

    Starting a new post for this is best. So, you are needing suggestions for zone 5 IL, large evergreen shrubs that will be getting how much shade?

    You don't need a hedge. Screen the views you want with a large shrub, possibly conifers that can grow to mature size unmolested.

  • 4 years ago

    after all the trees are out, I should get full sun. Any suggestion?

  • 4 years ago
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    Why would you want to remove the trees in the tree line presumably near your property line?

    They provide a significant amount of screening especially during the non winter months when you will be using your patio.

    If the smaller plants were strategically placed about 2/3s of the way to the tree line from your house. you would effectively screen the houses behind you.

    At these closer distance you would only need something wit many trucks, and it would not necessarily need to be evergreen. Things in this category would be lilac, Rose of Sharon, etc. At a different distance, rose bushes, etc, could provide good screening

    Planting something like Juniper, Holley, etc would be pretty and provide the low screen you need to obscure the houses,

    Oaks tend to keep their leaves most of the winter. so they could provide screening also. If you went for this type of screening it could be quite near the house, (Far renounce away for safety.)

  • 4 years ago

    These were all volunteer mulberry that the previous owners let get out of control. Literally 3 and 4 in 15-20 sq ft areas. All at least the diameter of a coffee can. I tried trimming them so they weren’t all interwoven with each other but then it was nothing but trunks. It had to be done.

  • 4 years ago

    Whatever melts your margarine. Most deciduous shrubs are twiggy enough to provide a fair amount of privacy even during the winter. You'll want something fairly large, but that doesn't narrow things down a great deal.

    Forsythia, lilac, once-blooming roses, various viburnums, syringa, flowering quince, calycanthus, various buckeyes, etc. etc. etc.

    For evergreens, I've been eyeing some of the big, old fashioned shrub junipers. As a foundation shrub, a juniper with the potentially to easily get to 8 ft. is quite passe. However, as part of a privacy planting, I think they have potential.

  • 4 years ago

    I haven’t decided whether to plant conifers or just several shrubs or a mixture or both. I considered a few green giants surrounded by some other things.

  • 4 years ago

    Lilacs

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Here are some ideas using White Fir or Serbian Spruce, Redbud & Juniperus virginiana or Pinus rigida:



  • 4 years ago

    As important a factor as zone and shade is DEER. If you have them, your choices are simplified.

  • 4 years ago

    Bravo - Dig Doug's

    but forget the virginina

  • 4 years ago

    I dig Doug's design, but would also pass on the Juniper. How about a few pines? Pinus cembra would look nice, and there are numerous clones to choose from.

  • 4 years ago

    When you have deer, any thing you plant must be large enough to provide feed for the deer and to be able to increase its size.


    Screens, stakes, and other things are only band aid solutions.


    10 years ago we planted many small azaleas. The Deer kept them small until about 3 years ago when the root system was able to cause more growth that the deer could eat. In the 3 years, they have grown to about 4 times the size they had been for years.

  • 4 years ago

    No deer issues here luckily. I’m just looking for something fast growing and little maintenance. This is an area not used so I just let things be.

  • 4 years ago

    the best thing about dougs mockup is that he came out from the property line.. and went 3D on the design ... i would also skip juniper... aggressive trees .. kinda nice looking when young.. and just ugly old baturds when they get older... especially if hit with snow or ice damage.. not to mention juniper tip blight ...


    though you do want to plant near the property line ... do come out into the lawn significantly ... nothing more boring than a straight line of greenery along the property line ... especially when you have lawn to work with ... and in this case.. a bit of a hill that you cant do a lot with anyway ... though it does make for interesting bocci ... and im not kidding about that ....


    id probably throw some lilac out there ... grow pretty fast ... can get root cuttings from any stranger with a bush... right in my wheelhouse price range.. lol ...


    but i would start with some drapes or shades in the sun/FL room for some instant privacy while you are in that room ....if you need such ... regardless of what you do with plants... it will take years to achieve your goal ... shades wont ... it will be ready to go as soon as they are installed...


    ken

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Eastern Red Cedar (Juniperus virginiana) is an attractive tree in my opinion. However, there are many alternatives.





  • 4 years ago

    depends where you are doug .. and where OP is .. in my MI... they are near invasive lining miles of roadside .... not to mention the disease issues i mentioned above ..


    yet on the other hand.. they are native down south.. and the basis of the split rail and cedar bark mulch industries ...


    6 of this.. half dozen of the other.. but i got a real hate on for them.. and i feel i must share such whenever i am given the opportunity.. lol ... cute little blue things... hence my attraction.. until tip blight forced removal of half of my collection... and then snow and ice did the job on the rest ...


    ken



  • 4 years ago

    I rather like the look of the junipers in our neighbourhood and have never noticed damage from winter weather, or from pests. HOWEVER as a sufferer from tree pollen allergies, juniper pollen is the first problem tree of spring :-) Our neighbour to the south has two of them at the base of their driveway and I always know when those trees are producing pollen! :-) So, if you or anyone in your family has tree pollen allergies, be aware that junipers could cause problems in spring. Mind you, I love trees so am willing to suffer a bit of discomfort when the ones I love are producing their pollen!

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    If the pollen of J. virginiana is a problem, try getting female plants. Generally speaking, if you see the cones/berries, pollen should not be an issue, although rarely P.v. can be monoecious.

    Male plants can emit clouds of pollen in the spring and a larger specimen might spell miserly for those with allergies.

  • 4 years ago

    You mentioned Green Giants and they are a good choice. I also live in zone 5 and have planted about 20 over the years. They are fast growing, take on a pyramid shape, never need pruning and are drought resistant. They need space however, I staggered mine at 12-15 feet apart and they closed that gap. Make the planting circle 5-6 ft. in diameter to keep the grass away. they compete with grass when young. Once they reach 10ft at the base the grass is no longer a problem. As they grow look under the lower branches for wild offshoots and trim them before they get too big, also watch out for double leaders which you don't want.

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