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Speed Oven Debate

4 years ago

Been doing a lot of research and just can't find many reviews on speed ovens anywhere and hoping to get help here.


We are renovating our kitchen, and had wanted to try to do a dual oven, but just won't fit. So we decided on a 36" Wolf Induction range + oven. The sales guy at the appliance shop we're using was really pushing us hard on the Miele Speed Oven, indicating that the rest of the options were basically junk because none of them had the "bake" heat element at the bottom. However, I just didn't like the interface at all on the oven, and spending $4k on it seemed a bit steep, when everything else out there is basically half the price. In addition - every single person I've known with Miele ovens has hated them. (Sales guy was also pushing their ranges hard until we told him no).


Our initial thought was to go with the Wolf Speed Oven to match the range we are getting, plus I like the warranty. The sales guy is trying to steer us away telling us that it's basically white labelled and nothing special and the only reason to choose it would be asthetics. I'm also looking/considering options from Bosch, Kitchen Aid, Thermador, but feeling a bit frustrated by the lack of information out there. At the end of the day, this is likely going to be used 80% of the time as a microwave. We also have an air fryer/toaster oven we use multiple times a day and likely will keep for it's convenience and toasting capabilities.


Looking for thoughts on what models we should consider and if there really is a different in any of the "other" brands for speed ovens when it comes to convection/microwave.


Thanks.

Comments (13)

  • 4 years ago

    I’m getting a Wolf Speed oven in my kitchen renovation. I don’t have it yet so I can’t tell you how I like it. I don’t microwave a lot, but I use my ovens everyday. I’m also getting an induction range and CSO.

  • 4 years ago

    @bry911 - the Advantium looked fine, but this is going under the counter, and our installer won’t put it there as it’s against “GE’s terms of use” and would invalidate the warranty :(

  • 4 years ago

    I think the 120 advantium would go under counter but I’ve read that it’s not worth it. I have the 240 advantium and am loving it so far!

  • 4 years ago

    I'm going to weigh in as a non-hater of Miele. We have an under counter speed oven and it has been great for lo these 11 years...we've got a Capital range as the main oven. If you go by how many times it is used, then yes it is 80% microwave. Like husband's coffee, kids' snacks etc. But overall time used, I'd say 50/50 because it does bake so well that I use it for many smaller baking projects. It heats up much faster than the big oven. All of which to say is that you may use your speed oven for more baking than you think, once it is in place! Ours is an older model I guess, with real live knobs you can turn to set the temperature and the baking mode...

  • 4 years ago

    I agree with gardengirl. And I have the same simple Miele speed oven from 2012. Probably the same model. I have a 36” Blue Star as my main range and use the speed oven for most of my oven needs. I installed it under counter. I rarely use the speed functions—mostly just microwaving and baking. I know it broils too but I don’t use it for broiling because broiling is messy and I like to keep it reasonably clean.

    I just redid my kitchen in my country house and bought another Miele speed oven as my third oven. I bought the cheapest one. I think it was around 2K. I didn’t think all the features of the more expensive ones were worth it. For what it’s worth, I bought the least expensive 30” convection oven too and it is just fine. We got a CSO and use that more than anything.

    If you need an undercounter microwave, I think the lowest price Miele is your best bet. It’s a great microwave and is a really terrific small oven. Much more useful than a microwave drawer.

  • 4 years ago

    In my opinion you should consider a CSO like a Miele XXL. There's a long thread with users talking about them.

    Why is the salesman pushing a Miele speed oven? They aren't as popular or in demand. But one is probably easier to get. So it'll be a sale for him.

  • 4 years ago

    We have 12 months until construction so lead time actually not an issue. Pretty sure there are spiff’s involved here.

  • 4 years ago

    I had a 120V Samsung OTR Speed Oven. It wasn't great for baking but it roasted and broiled beautifully. When we renovated our kitchen a couple years ago, the Samsung got moved to the camp and we went with the 240V GE Advantium in the wall. It bakes, broils and roasts beautifully and of course microwaves great. I orginally wanted it under the counter but it voids the warrantee. Tha being said, I know several folks who have them installed under the counter BUT you have to be sure you have the recommended clearances so the installs tend to be a tad low.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    well i don't know about the other reviewers that said they hate their Miele SO... we love ours and use it all the time, more than our full size Wolf oven.

    it bakes, broils, MW's.. we have had no problems with it and would buy again. we have touch pad, bought in 2012 and its been awesome.

    heats up quickly, cooks perfectly.. no issues whatsoever.

  • 4 years ago

    Consider the 120 Advantium if it's true it won't void the warranty to install it under a counter. We have been using ours for just over a month and are quite happy with it. It was a lifesaver for the 3 or 4 weeks before our range was installed and hooked up.


    I looked at both the 120 and the 240 and decided the 120 was more than adequate for our needs because I wasn't really too interested in the "speed" aspect. I had been told that the 240 has an advantage if you have a bunch of hungry kids who are starving and waiting anxiously for their chicken nuggets or pizza to be cooked. That's not our situation or the kind of cooking I normally do.


    I wanted something that could function as a second oven and as a microwave. As far as microwaving, it's a microwave; what more can I say. It also works well as an oven (I've used it for things like lasagna, quick bread, baked fish etc.) but it is no faster than a regular oven. That's fine for me. My only issue has been the few times I wanted to microwave and realized that the Advantium was already occupied with something I was baking. I figured out workarounds though. Now that my range is connected, it truly is a backup rather than the primary oven I had been using it for initially.

  • 4 years ago

    We've had two Miele masterchef electric wall ovens and been quite happy with them. When we built our new house we did a lot of research and that was still the best option for us and our cooking.

    For speed ovens I think an Advantium 240 is the one to compare all others to and I think all others including the Advantium 120 are much less capable (though haven't looked much since making our final decisions a couple of years ago).

    Between a CSO and Speed Oven though, if we had to eliminate one it'd be the speed oven.

    More: https://bamasotan.us/2021/12/the-kitchen/


  • 4 years ago

    I have a Miele speed oven. It's a great oven. I don't find the speed aspect useful but my kid says it works well.