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Madagascar Small tree or shrub

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

Succulent oval leaves, fleshy. in tropical but not quite botanical garden (no labels, no lists) in south FL in a bed where mostly Madagascar plants are (and adeniums, beaucarnea things like that: succulents mostly ). it might be from elsewhere? about 12-15’ high with half inch red fruit clusters hanging.



Comments (17)

  • 4 years ago

    The leaves are very similar to Clusia rosea, but the fruit is wrong. That is the plant family to look in for a start.

  • 4 years ago

    I would contact the botanical gardens and ask them.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    It’s more of a park, not a bot garden, so asking won’t do much. easier and faster to ask here.:)

    although this is an old planting , may be even from the time it was home to Parrot jungle.

    this is in Pinecrest gardens, Miami Fl.

    since i am there often enough i’ll keep an eye on it, may be see the flowers in spring or fall.

    i actually do see similar leaves on other exotics,

    so it is not only Clusia that have them..

    yes, the leaves are very much like Clusia rosea, but it is a much smaller tree: seen a huge fruiting Clusia in Fairchild bot garden…and it is here everywhere in the landscaping, even in pots..super common plant here.

    i just like to track down weird and unusual :). in the process learn all kinds of interesting stuff ;).

    ill take better pics next time too.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    This is part of the tree: a few branches.

    i see a spray of what might be flower buds ..

    this was in mid December about a month ago.



  • 4 years ago

    A plant in the dry garden, it has a Scaevola look about it too.

    This is the email for the person listed as horticulturist at Pinecrest: hbernstein@pinecrest-fl.gov <hbernstein@pinecrest-fl.gov>

    petrushka (7b) thanked Christopher CNC
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I know how to google and find contacts :).

    i am asking here because that is my preference. thanks anyway, perhaps somebody will pipe in with more suggestions..

    scaevola is also ubiquitous here:). it has white berries though. i looked for red and see at most purple. it’s easy ’nuff to just wait for flowers..

    problem is scaevola (sea lettuce) is not flowering in dec-jan. i have it on my pool deck to witness ;). it’s like a weed here..

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    i should’ve preemptied the obvious suggestions like Clusia and Scaevola, sorry .

    if i have no luck here may be i’ll email the garden….as a last resort. i much prefer searching thru images..until it pops! it’s my entertainment of sorts ;).

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    "the obvious suggestions like Clusia and Scaevola," are plant family or groups to start looking in for a less common relative for people who know how to google and have good internet. The obvious tropical suggestions were not meant as a specific ID.

  • 4 years ago

    Great! i googled for some timd now and i did not see anything like that. that is why i am asking here :). thanks

  • 4 years ago

    Great. Go entertain yourself.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Wow! i guess posting here is not

    advisable for the likes of me who can google before they post (and after).

    however, i am still hopefull:).. for the possible advice in the future.. that is of Other people besides you.

  • 4 years ago

    Try Harvey at Pinecrest.

  • 4 years ago

    If somebody tells you something you already know, this doesn't preclude the appropriateness of thanking them for taking an interest and spending some of their time/effort to try to help out.

  • 4 years ago

    It reminds of a byrsonima of some kind

  • 4 years ago

    I looked at Byrsomia at yr suggestion: from what i can see so far the leaves are thinner and veins are different.

    also i don’t see the red fruit .

    i should be there soon to take a better look at it , and the flowers may be will open .

    it is not a rush, i am simply curious.


  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    yes! i think it's a match!

    tell if i am being picky..the only difference from pics that is see is that on 'my plant' flower/fruit clusters are not round, but elongated. and the central vein on the leaves is almost invisible, but on canella it is quite well defined. may be just variations?

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