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March Madness (not basketball)

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

Actually pretty common here in March, even 1st week of April often has alittle snow. Longleaf pine tries to keep up with honeylocust to avoid shading, but having a hard time since honeylocust is 55 ft tall after 17 yrs -- still not my tallest since same-age tuliptree is 60 ft.


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  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Yep. Glad your long leaf pine is holding up.

    Here is my Juniperus rigida today: https://vimeo.com/687461712

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    bengz6westmd thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Video worked fine in a new tab. Very elegant juniper -- hoping the weeping form isn't from freezing rain.....

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    No not on that one! I've seen more or less attractive forms of J. rigida, but this one, from Woodlanders, is one of the best. Yet another thing that is inexplicably underplanted...they are very easy to grow.

    bengz6westmd thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 4 years ago

    Cool looking juniper, and it appears reasonably healthy - I wonder if it is susceptible to any of the typical juniper diseases (phomopsis, canker, rust)?

    We had 1" of snow yesterday (some of it melted away in the afternoon), but much colder today (currently 19F). My soil is still solidly frozen in the shady areas. Not ideal conditions for "national plant a flower day" ;)

    bengz6westmd thanked arbordave (SE MI)
  • 4 years ago

    Ridiculously cold out west lately

    bengz6westmd thanked L Clark (zone 4 WY)
  • 4 years ago

    No disease problems so far arbordave.


    bengz6westmd thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    prior thread:

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/1850983/juniperus-rigida-pedula

    It seems some forms of J. rigida are so 'naturally weeping' they can barely stand upright, as with rather lamentable specimen I linked to in my second post. (would have been better to just let it clamber along that ground)

    Mine has barely had any pruning for shaping purposes at all, and certainly no work to maintain a single leader. Does it all on its own. Even my Cedrus 'Shalimar' has needed one competing leader cut off, which would have ruined its form.

    Anyhow I think these look particularly pretty in the snow so I'm glad I hopped onto beng's thread. It's a very ephemeral display with all the wind we were having. I drove down to Nova yesterday to check on my Dad and his live-in carer. Only the conifers in the leeward side of the beltway still had snow on them, and I'm sure even that was gone after a couple hours.

    bengz6westmd thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 4 years ago

    March weather really can be "madness" - Detroit's greatest 24 hour temperature swing was March 8-9, 1987, when the temp fell from 74F to 23F.

    Earlier this week it looked like my Arnold Promise Witch-hazel was on track to flower at about the same time it did last year, but then Friday the cold air mass moved in. High yesterday was 21F, last night's low 9F. AP flower development today (3/13/22):

    Here's the same AP one year ago (3/13/21):


    bengz6westmd thanked arbordave (SE MI)
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Players golf tournament in Jacksonville, FL went from 80F to low 30sF in a day or so. 12F here after the snow. Daffodils and resurrection lilies are emerging and not apparently hurt.


    Edit: davidrt, know where juniperus rigida pedula is available? Seems to stay small which would be good.

  • 4 years ago

    I got mine from Woodlanders.

    bengz6westmd thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 4 years ago

    Found one (trying to find one was like pulling teeth) -- way too expensive. Even seeds are out of stock. Oh well. Weeping Virginia juniper is available, but that needs support & just isn't the same.

  • 4 years ago

    Found one (trying to find one was like pulling teeth) -- way too expensive


    Where? Just curious. It wasn't Susanna Farms was it? That's the only nursery in MD I know of that might carry something like that, and is very expensive LOL.


    bengz6westmd thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 4 years ago

    No, it was some Oregon nursery I think -- $150 for a small one....... Uh, no.... And that was the only one I could find that was in stock. The mail-order tree business in general has declined quite a bit -- I seriously doubt I could find some of the trees I've ordered/planted anymore.

  • 4 years ago

    To add, found the link to it, you have to sign up to view the price (jeesh), but it was 150 bucks.

    http://www.russellsnursery.com/library.php?id=307

  • 4 years ago
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    The mail-order tree business in general has declined quite a bit

    Definitely. Everything horticulture related has declined in my opinion...in this country at least. I've already started plenty of threads documenting the decline and loss of mail order businesses. Local nurseries aren't what they used to be. Take the once legendary Styers in SE PA. 20 years ago you could probably have gotten 5-10 cultivars of European beech there, and plenty of other rarities. I remember speaking with employees who clearly knew and loved plants. These days, it's a trendy restaurant and housewares boutique that happens to sell outdoor plants LOL. It doesn't even feel as 'horticultural' as it did 3-4 years ago. Every time I stop in (and these days, only because I happen to be in the area for some other reason) it seems less and less a garden center.

    bengz6westmd thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 4 years ago

    I don't think they will be easy to ground layer, but I plan to try to ground layer a WHOLE bunch of things this year. I will try a couple and see if I can root one for you.


    bengz6westmd thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 4 years ago

    Seems few people plant trees anymore. I see whole, relatively new developments where lawns are bare and just of few of the silly bordor stuff around houses. And these places are 10-20 yrs old! A large section of Hagerstown I grew up in used to have trees on every lot & along streets. Pretty much all have been cut down and nothing replanted. Some older areas that had oaks and other long-lived trees (prb'ly not planted but saved in place when the houses were built) still look pretty good.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Agree. Same goes for lawns and trees here. No one takes care of their landscape anymore. Boomers are a good generation, take care of their properties for the most part. Millenials (I’m one)? ugh

    bengz6westmd thanked L Clark (zone 4 WY)
  • 4 years ago

    More snow squalls covering ground here w/gale-force winds and near recold cold for the date (March 28). Fortunately, no trees have really budded except some green buds on Japanese larch (and lilac), but those are rarely bothered by spring cold/freezes. Again, this weather is not that uncommon for late March.