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Peeling paint on porcelain. Help!

4 years ago

So I tried to postpone an inevitable tiling project by painting over the existing ugly tile. It looked great for a few weeks until rains came…the Alkyd paint that was recommended to me by a pro, seems to peel right off when it gets wet. I tried a test again later with a primer as well and it also peels so it’s definitely not about prep. It’s just the wrong paint?? I can’t get oil based in my area so now I don’t know what to do. It’s very bad looking and I just can’t get into retiling the porch until 2023.
Thoughts about what paint to use or other suggestions?

Comments (23)

  • 4 years ago

    Hi. Another post was discussing painting a concrete patio… my mom was technical support for sealkrete back in the day… she helped people with pealing paint and sealing problems. All the problems people had were either temperature problems ( too cold to apply) or prep issues. She has mentioned that it is best to use a floor or porch paint… if it is bare, it would require cleaning and etching. If previously painted, remove all loose/peeling paint and apply a primer based on porch and floor paint recommendations…. I would imagine the same process should apply to the tile.. it might just have been too smooth for it to bond properly so it seems like you’d need to remove the paint and etch it with some sort of chemical and then put on a primer before paint. I’d hope there is a one step product out there somewhere that someone knows to save you time and energy. Sorry you are dealing with this.

  • 4 years ago

    I just can’t get into retiling the porch until 2023.

    I would use a pressure washer to finish removing the paint and live with the tile until next year.

  • 4 years ago

    I agree with cleaning it off and leaving as is until next year. I would get a nice non-patterned outdoor rug. Get one large enough to cover most of the actual porch.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Stamped and stained cement over it. For now power wash and live with it for another year and like others have said a large outdoor rug to cover it for now.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    https://www.hunker.com/13411243/how-to-paint-outside-ceramic-tile

    Here is the How To regarding painting exterior ceramic tile. It involves prep and the RIGHT PRIMER!!!!!!


  • 4 years ago

    thank you. Yes I have seen this link previously. I used the right primer and it still peeled unfortunately.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    IMO regular paint will never do this job I am another for power wash and leave it unless you want tpp power wash the use a pint epeoxy based for tile and make sure it id for exterior use Oh and BTW you won't be able to use it for 48HRS can we see where these tiles are in relation to the house too.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Wait, did you use the GLASS PRIMER that was recommended?

  • 4 years ago

    Yes I did. Here’s what I used.

  • 4 years ago

    And I just bought a new option also for glass called STIX. Ace hardware recommended it so I’ll try a patch and see what happens. 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • 4 years ago

    Did you use any type of acid to etch the tile before priming? That’s what my mom used to recommend when she worked at Sealcrete. I wouldn’t particularly want to work with an acid myself but apparently it’s an important step.

  • 4 years ago

    No I did not. I think it’s a step too much for me. If this second primer doesn’t do it I think I’ll take the advice to wait until I can really just tear it all up and start fresh.

  • 4 years ago

    Yeah. That’s a step too much for me too… sounds a bit dangerous.

  • 4 years ago

    Update for those interested…STIX seems to work better. I’m not sure if it’s perfect for tread durability but as for standing water, it seems to be sticking to the tile fine. No peeing or bubbling! So I’ll just redo the gnarly bits and see if that can buy me some time until next year!

  • 4 years ago

    Ummmmmm-


    I almost hate to point this out, but......if you read the TDS of that Behr Primer, it says.....

    "Do not use on floors".


    STIX Primer-

    * It mentions lots of uses.....but does NOT mention use on floors!

    * You'll see the term WALLS & SIDING used, but not floors.

    * I'm not aware of ANY Consumer available Primers for HORIZONTAL use.

    * Primers are too stiff to use on floors. PRIMERS are built to PROMOTE ADHESION.....NOT to be walked on.


    Faron

  • 4 years ago

    Ah interesting. Re the Behr primer… that doesn’t explain why the bubbling? If I painted wall tile it would bubble when wet as well, no? And if it’s meant for vertical wall tile as pictured on the can, then what gives? It bubbled up even without standing water on it.

  • 4 years ago

    This is the process I read about for STIX on floors…we’ll see what happens! Now I’m in it for the experiment! :)

    https://thepaintpeople.com/tips-how-tos/how-to-paint-floor-tiles/

  • 4 years ago

    I read that paintpeople "how to" as well. Not gonna lie......I don't think I can roll my eyes any higher!!!


    Never fails..... people see the words "For Tile", & just assume it's ok for flooring use.....


    I can't WAIT to retire!!!

    😇😁😉

    Faron

  • 4 years ago

    Isn’t a tile porch slippery when wet?..

  • 4 years ago

    1) Re: The TDS on that Behr SATIN Urethane/Alkyd paint....

    "DO NOT USE ON HORIZONTAL SURFACES SUBJECT TO FOOT TRAFFIC".


    2) Behr DOES show a "Concrete & Masonry Bonding Primer" for Horizontal use. SPECIFIC prep steps REQUIRED!


    Faron

  • 4 years ago

    I would also suspect your tile is not porcelain, but glazed ceramic.

  • 4 years ago

    @Moore4 Oooo yeah I think you are correct!