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red oak floor solution to look like white oak

4 years ago

I know that red Oak and White Oak are very different woods… But we are committed to a red Oak floor. Our goal is to make it look like white oak with a very natural light stain. Currently the red oak floor is installed with no stain or anything on it. Does anybody have advice on how to achieve this look? My builder is having us select a stain from Duraseal.

After some minimal research I’ve seen that some people bleach the hardwood before applying a stain… I don’t know if this is common practice or even a good idea in general?

Any advice is much appreciated

Comments (39)

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    IMO not doable if you want that natural white oak look the you need white oak. I have always gone dark stain if forced to use red oak. Why are you committed to red oak would be my question. If it was to save money to get it to even begin to be bleached to make it lighter will cost more than the difference between the two for cost.

  • 4 years ago

    Our builder included it in our house. It’s already installed so we are committed

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Check "PINK BLOCKER 2C" by Ciranova. I know it can be done since we recently received a red oak sample from Mercier that has a white oak look. Good luck!

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Achieving this is likely outside the skill level of a spec home contractor. If you are committed to pursuing this, see if you can contract with your own flooring specialist who has a proven method and past jobs that you can inspect. Otherwise, you'll end up with a pink floor.

  • 4 years ago

    The best way is probably to mix a custom stain combining one of the darker colors like Jacobean, Coffee and Ebony with Neutral/Natural and applying it over water popped wood. Mixing in a little white stain can be helpful too. Besides the reddish tone, the issue with Red Oak is the deeper grain. Water popping will make the color more uniform and potentially keep the soft grain from being so prominent.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    You will not get the light brown or tan color of white oak with red oak. It will either be white with pink and yellow hues or dark. It will be much easier to achieve a silver gray color with red oak.


    You can use Ciranova's Pink blocker as suggested by Unique. Then apply Cirnaova's Un1co oil - smoke. Smoke has a light green hue to it. It will give you a light mustard green color, some pink may still bleed through. You can mix a little white to make it a more pale looking. All samples on Ciranova's website is done on European oak. So , your samples will be different.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    FWIW here is my old red oak floor sanded and bleached. It was then stained with 100% white Duraseal and sealed with Loba 2k Supra AT. I tried to color correct. It has a warm vanilla appearance.

    I keep trying to include a photo but it disappears when I submit. I even compressed it from 2.6mb to 999kb. Please advise, thanks.


    thanks turtlexings24


    the Loba is satin


    link to photo old red oak bleached 100% white duraseal

  • 4 years ago

    Darn would love to see a picture ! Thanks for trying and for your comments

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Was going to suggest pickling your red oak floors to achieve a lighter color but am reading that process often yields a pinkish color. So, that route is probably a no go.

  • 4 years ago

    @TBL try uploading the photo(s) to imgur anonymously then sharing the link here. Seems like a possible workaround.

  • 4 years ago

    This is red oak with a bleach treatment and an application of matte polyurethane.

    We didn’t trust the use of the pink blocker or stains containing whites/grays. I do think you have to be careful with bleach as it may impact the grain of the wood.

  • 4 years ago

    @Lauren what did you decide? I am trying to achieve this same thing.

  • 4 years ago

    Haven’t yet…. Unfortunately the more people we talk to the more we are being convinced to go dark. I’m afraid to make a mistake and turn the floor pink

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    If, you go dark enough, you can hide anything. Dark walnut and Antique brown is a good start.


    For light flooring, bleaching will work better than Pink blocker, if you want a white Ash looking floor.


    Pink blocker will work well, with your light brown colors such as early American, provincials, twig, nutmeg, etc.

  • 4 years ago

    @Lauren I started looking at the aged barrel or aged wheat. It’s has a greenish tone that may eliminate the redness. The problem is that it’s so dark so may need to mix it with something else that is light.

    Did you see this video?

    https://youtu.be/zTDUzGEg3BM

  • 4 years ago

    @kenisha So funny that you sent that!!! I just came across that video yesterday! I might try and do the same thing. I’m testing out stains today and one of them is aged barrel. I’ll keep you posted!

  • 4 years ago

    @lauren ok. I just ordered both aged barrel and aged wheat. I may try a mix with pickled or weathered oak with a hint of the aged. Ugh! This struggle is real!! Lol

  • 4 years ago

    Any luck @kenisha??? No luck on my end. Feeling very stressed and miserable about it. Thinking of now going with special walnut. Ugh

  • 4 years ago

    @Lauren the sanding process has started today. I should have some ideas this weekend after sanding has finished. I am still doing some research. I did see a floor with special walnut mix that had a light look to it. See below.

  • 4 years ago

    @lauren this is driftwood with weathered oak

  • 4 years ago

    @lauren idk if you are done staining as yet, but I am going with 2 part driftwood and 1 part aged barrel.

  • 4 years ago

    Wow that looks great. Haven’t landed on mine yet. Unfortunately I need to stay within Duraseal. I don’t think they have a color similar to driftwood

  • 4 years ago

    @Lauren I did a 3:1 and 4:1 (driftwood: aged barrel) yesterday to make it even lighter. Driftwood stain looks green. Can you ask them if they have a stain color that has a green tint?

  • 4 years ago

    @kenisha wow that looks fantastic!!!! I will investigate!

  • 4 years ago

    @Laren, the floors are done. It didn’t turn out exactly the color I wanted but they are amazing. Best of luck with your floors!

  • 4 years ago

    Looks awesome!!! Thanks for the update. I’ll keep you updated. We haven’t decided on a stain yet!!!

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Hi ladies!! In the process of doing the same. Do you guys have updated photos of your floors to share and what final colors you went with?!

  • 3 years ago

    I ended up going with special walnut. One coat with a satin water based poly (not shiny). We love it. After the floor stainer put samples down of the lighter colors it really did look pink. I feared having my whole house “being ruined” so I went with the “safer” color and I couldn’t be happier. Someone gave me the advice that most of your hardwood floors will be eventually covered by area rugs anyways so no need to stress!

    The picture was taken at night with overhead lighting on. Not the best time to take a photo but you get the idea! Good luck!!!

  • 3 years ago

    3:1 (driftwood:aged barrel) with satin finish. I honestly wish I would have done 4:1 to make them even lighter. The driftwood stain literally has a green undertone (when you look in the can, it’s green) and I feel like it’s the trick to minimize the red. Aged barrel has a grey undertone.

  • 3 years ago

    oh wow both turned out beautiful! I am feeling the same way about going with a "safer" color to avoid pinks. Thanks for sharing ladies! they both look amazing.

  • 3 years ago

    @larakaty I'm wondering what the size of your flooring is in this photo. 5in, 4 1/4?

  • 3 years ago

    What brand is the Driftwood?

  • 3 years ago

    Minwax

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks for this discussion. I’m in the medium of a kitchen renovation. I have red oak floors that I have decided to sand and stain in hopes of minimizing the orange and pink hues. I am looking for a stain/brand that can offer that solution and complement white oak cabinets 🙈. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated!

  • 2 years ago

    One thing i learned during my research was to use a water base stain and NOT oil base. oil base yellows over time.

  • 2 years ago

    Has anyone tried the Bona product, "Red Out"?

  • 2 years ago

    We did and are still try to get our floors cirrected