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Roses, Jerome, the new abbey etc....

4 years ago

Hi everyone,

Jerome here and sorry for my long absences. We moved to a new facility about 14-15 months ago and it's been wonderful, but a real upheaval as well. If any of the old timers who remember me are still lurking here, I will try to give you a brief update.


The old abbey was sold to a group working with the homeless. We moved in to the new place January 17, 2021. Many (not all) of the roses from the old place moved about 2 months before we did: Fr. Ambrose and the young men in formation dug out over 100 of the rarer varieties and transplanted them to the new place. I was not involved in any of it because I was assigned to a post in San Diego at that time (October '19-October '20) and was rarely home.


Most of the roses made it very well (I think we might have lost between 2-5 plants) and many of them are doing much better here than at the old place. That said, the area we grow them in is much less extensive than the old place. We are trying to conserve water, and frankly the gardens at the old abbey began to become a maintenance nightmare, with my getting older and less spry, and just having too much to care for. We are an abbey first, and gardens are nice, but not if they monopolize too much time. This new place has a nice rose garden, but it's smaller. It may expand in the future, but we need a few years to settle in here and just get used to the new place.


I think of many of you often, and wonder how people are (excuse if I get names inaccurately): Olga; ZephieRose; Lux; Hoover; Melissa PeachieKean and so very many others. If any of you see this, best greetings to you all.


I don't have photos to post (I'll have to relearn how to do that) but hope to as soon as I can/learn how. There is no way I can be on the forum as much as in the halcyon days of the early 2000s, but I'll try to peak in occasionally. Frankly, I have really passed the baton to the younger generation, and they seem to love it. And I love to look at it; and the fragrances, whether of roses or of newly laid compost, are wonderful.


That said: the garden is still new, not even 18 months old, and it looks new. I learned at the old abbey that it took about 5 years for everything to mature to a point that it was really pretty...and it just kept getting better and better. I would imagine these new gardens will hit their mature stride sometime in 2025-26. But it will be great to watch them in the meantime.


Last thought: one thing I have noticed is how much microclimate affects the way different varieties work. The David Austins are *definitely* happier here at the new place - no comparison.


Ok, that's it from me. I hope someone sees this and greetings to all of you gardeners.


Jerome

Comments (8)

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Glad to hear from you, Jerome. It's so admirable of the Catholic church to sell the old abbey to a group working with the homeless. This reminds me to send a donation to Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity in Chicago. These nuns serve the homeless single-moms with children.

    The best thing I did was to combine my hobby of roses with charity. I rooted out-of-patent roses and gave to friends & family and they chipped in the money in donation to charities.

    Own-root consumes so much less water than grafted-on-Dr.Huey, plus the out-of-patent rootings can be shared among friends. This spring I mailed a box of Duchess de Rohan suckers to a friend, and it costed me only $12 of postage and 15 min. of digging the suckers.

    I still buy from own-root nurseries, and the ladies of Burlington Roses, Roses Unlimited, and LongAgoRoses do so much to cheer us with the gift of roses. I also ordered from High Country Roses & Chamblee's & Antique Rose Forum & Regan nursery .. and God bless these nurseries for bringing so much happiness and enjoyment in life to countless people.

    It's pure excitement to open a box of roses (with blooms) from own-root nurseries. And sniffing Princess Charlene de Monaco was a tremendous comfort when I coped with my Mom passing away. Below bouquet reminds me that God is good, and life can still be enjoyable despite tragedies.


  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Fr Jerome, it's so good to hear from you. I've tried three times to post a message here, so hopefully third time is charm (it keeps telling me I'm not signed in). There were no replies when I first started typing, and now Straw has had time to post a long message, if that tells you anything, lol. We all have missed you. Your name comes up quite often when we talk about absent members. You're one less to worry about now ;) Please bless us with your presence when you can, regardless of the maturity of the gardens. We want to watch them grow with you.

    John


    jerome thanked fig_insanity Z7b E TN
  • 4 years ago

    It’s wonderful to hear from you and to read about the new Abbey! Thank you for the update, (Father) Jerome. Carol

    jerome thanked portlandmysteryrose
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Good to hear from you again, Jerome! Good to hear, too, about your experience with Austins and different microclimates. Austins planted in my garden, with few exceptions, do very badly, so maybe it's not just "me" :-).

    jerome thanked catspa_zone9sunset14
  • 4 years ago

    It will be great to see photos down the road, Jerome. It is true that Tea roses improve with age here too. I hope all of yours settle in. That is great you have the younger generation involved.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    It's so good to hear from you Fr. Jerome. I'm a newer rose gardener, and have been planting roses and on this forum only since the summer of 2020. Although you don't know me, I have learned so much from people on this forum, including you! When I was researching roses to plant I came across several of your older posts with beautiful pictures. Thank you for sharing with us! I look forward to seeing your new garden mature. I'm glad you have a younger generation to help by doing he hard work.

    jerome thanked librarian_gardner_8b_pnw
  • 4 years ago

    I'm another who has missed your posts and photos of your beautiful Teas. It's heartening to hear that the younger generation are so enthusiastic. I remember the size of some of those plants and am amazed at their energy. Let's hope more of the bushes make it.