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Can you help me with Umbra?

4 years ago

I finally got Umbra, a rose I've been longing for, from Rogue Valley Roses. The roses arrived on Friday. They were a little dry and wilted, so I watered them all well. All of them perked up - except Umbra. Umbra's leaves are still, as of today, wilted, and even have gotten more so. At first, I was afraid that the plant was broken, because it was kind of wobbly in its pot. But today, I gently repotted it, and in the course of doing so, found it was not in fact broken, and that actually, below the surface, there's a new shoot starting. So that's good news! But I don't know what to do, if anything, about the wilted leaves, or why they didn't recover with hydration. Should I just leave them be? Cut them off? Any other suggestions welcome! I really really don't want to lose this plant! (Of course, it could turn out to not be Umbra, I won't know til it blooms, but at least the leaves look gallica-like.) Thanks in advance for any thoughts!

Comments (10)

  • 4 years ago

    The leaves might have just been a bit too far gone to recover. If the plant is alive and you take good care of it, chances are it will be fine.

    User thanked Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
  • 4 years ago

    Agreed. Perhaps the box was subjected to a period of sufficient heat to damage the foliage, hopefully not enough to harm the actual plant. The new shoot was under soil, therefore insulated from the worst of it. I'd leave the wilted foliage alone. The plant will shed them when it's ready. Until then, as long as they are green, they MAY actually feed the plant a bit and they definitely provide shade for the canes. Treat it well and let it show you what it wants to do. You should be OK.

    User thanked roseseek
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Ditto-ing Magpie. Sometimes plant shock doesn’t play out for awhile, so the wilt is delayed. If the cane(s) with the wilted leaves is green, I’d leave it. You could remove the leaves if they are toast anyway. Your fresh green shoot is great news! I suspect Umbra is as tough as the other Barden Gallicas, and Gallicas in general, and with your good care, Umbra will continue to mature and thrive. Carol

    PS I am so excited for your new Umbra acqusition! Mine is a baby, too. I am guessing a lot of us will be comparing Umbra notes.

    User thanked portlandmysteryrose
  • 4 years ago

    Thanks everybody for your responses! The leaves continue to wilt and are starting to dry out, so I think they'll probably fall off. But the can looks good, I don't see any sign of shriveling, and there is that beautiful hidden new shoot! So I'm cautiously hopeful ...

  • 4 years ago

    If it makes you feel better, I've had bands come with spider mites, which quickly developed into a gross amount of them and they ruined the foliage on my teeny baby rose. I had to pull all the foliage off and I'm sure it was stressed, but it recovered and did well despite its beginning. As long as the rose is decently vigorous there's a good chance that losing the foliage is just a minor setback and the rose will recover just fine. Being a gallica, I'd expect it to be tough enough to shrug this off. Good luck with it 🤞

    User thanked Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
  • 4 years ago

    Just wanted to give you all an update on my Umbra. All of the leaves ultimately dried up and fell off, but it has started putting out beautiful, fresh new leaves! The big can still looks plump and green. The baby cane that I discovered when repotting has not yet emerged, but judging by how long it took for the new leaves to start coming in, I think the plant is just taking time. So, I'm pretty relieved! Now, here's hoping it really is Umbra, which I guess I won't know til it blooms (hopefully) next spring. Thanks so much to all of you for your advice and support!!

  • 4 years ago

    "Life holds on, given the slightest chance.." Beth Nielsen Chapman. Congratulations!

    User thanked roseseek
  • 4 years ago

    Yay! Good luck raising that little baby plant. I do really enjoying buying band size and watching them grow. I'm so proud of them when they have growth spurts lol.

    User thanked Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I am so happy, Frances! 🎉🤞

    BNC: ”…I try not to worry as they grow a little every day. I've just got believe they're gonna find their way,.”

    You grow, little Umbra!

    User thanked portlandmysteryrose