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heleneo1974

Seeking hood help- not opinions

4 years ago

I would like to have a wood hood. My cabinets are due to be installed in a few weeks and the current design plan is for a Wolfe low profile hood with 12” above. Can I get an insert put into the cabinet panel in replace of the wolfe hood? Or can I go with a hoodsy type of hood with liner? Please help me figure this out. Kitchen designer is of no help.

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  • 4 years ago

    This is an example of the current plan for my kitchen

  • 4 years ago

    You'll need to order a cabinet to hold the insert which might delay the job. Otherwise I don't see a problem.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    First, if you are paying your kitchen designer to design your kitchen, put your foot down and say what you want. If she replies that she is unable to do it, she needs to explain exactly why your kitchen cannot accommodate a wood hood surround.

    What I suspect is going on, and your KD is not communicating it to you, is that your first photo above is a kitchen with high ceilings, and the width of that hood is double the width that you have available. Your first photo shows a space large enough to accommodate the wood hood surround - both physically and aesthetically. In your second photo the space you show for the hood is only 30" wide, and the ceiling does not appear to be high (correct me if I am wrong). The wood hood surround you want will not fit in that space; it needs more height and width.

    If you want a more important-looking hood, or more of a focal point than the low-profile hood, I advise looking at hoods by Vent-a-Hood or Modernaire in the 30" width (since that appears to be what you can fit). Here is a photo of the Vent-a-Hood ExCaliber model; it does come in a 30" size and you can customize it with straps and rivets. The cabinet it hangs from will need to be shorter than what you pictured in your second photo.



  • 4 years ago

    @mmiller. I think you may be right about the reason. We do only have 8’ ceilings, but I have seen this done with lower ceilings. Houzz wont let me add a pic I have, but I have seen it done.

  • 4 years ago

    @ Fori..cant the insert just go into the 12” cabinet that is to go above hood in current plan?

  • 4 years ago

    @miller- it is a 36” gas range. Pic attached was to just show the paneled cabinet above

  • 4 years ago

    Maybe if that cabinet was chopped up and you were willing to have a really terrible hood that didn't function well because it was really small (if they even exist that small)...see how the inspiration hood cabinet sticks out further than the surrounding wall cabinets? You kind of need it to do that to fit an insert in.


    (It'll also be too high.)

  • 4 years ago

    @fori good point about being too high. …

  • 4 years ago

    @miranda33 really good point. I am going with greenfield. I have heard other people share stories similar to yours, but on the flipside- I have heard others say cleaning was a breeze!

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    @heleneo1974 - I just looked at the Greenfield website and the company definitely makes wood hood surrounds in the different styles of their kitchen cabinet lines. I just quickly took a few pics from the Greenfield website and posting them here. They do all show high ceilings though and pretty big.







  • 4 years ago

    @miranda you are amazing! I agree with you about KD, but i would have preferred her honesty….

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you. In the KD's defense, I don't think she is being dishonest. I think she thinks your kitchen won't fit the cabinet hood, and also the cost may be way above the budget you set. These are expensive, and then add the expense of the liner/motor/lights, we are talking a lot of money. So she may be acting in your best interest, but just isn't good about communication.

  • 4 years ago

    Meant to ask, is your hood going to be ducted to the outside?

  • 4 years ago

    @ miranda33 yes..it has to be since we will have a 36” gas range top

  • 4 years ago

    There's no reason an 8-ft ceiling can't have a wood hood.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    There's no reason an 8-ft ceiling can't have a wood hood.

    There is the risk of it simply not looking good with an 8' ceiling unless whoever is designing it is keeping proportions and aesthetics in mind. In order for the wood hood to look good with an 8' ceiling, you need width. Ideally the OP should have the hood surround be 42" wide for 2 reasons: (1) for the aesthetics and proportion, and (2) ideally a hood should be 6" wider than its cooktop for best capture of the smoke and grease. This is especially needed for wood hood surrounds which tend to be made too shallow - around 18" deep a lot of the time, when the OP's rangetop will be 28" deep.

    I think that what the OP wants for a wood hood may not be able to fit with her existing kitchen cabinet order, and gerry-rigging something may look bad. I look forward to the OP getting back to us after she has had a good talk with her KD.

  • 4 years ago

    @m miller. You are spot on. My first discussion with the KD recently she said cabinets on either side needs to be smaller width and everything has been ordered. Just wish this was an option in her original design…

  • 4 years ago

    @ m miller any suggestions for me now?

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I suggested earlier going with a more glam stainless steel hood, but not sure if that appeals to you. That would entail just the one change to the cabinet it would hang from. Sorry I can't be of more help. I am not much a fan of wood hood surrounds for some of the reasons mentioned in this thread, so it's hard for me to to suggest more, other than you will have to make several changes to your upper cabinets to accommodate one. If you decide that is worth it, then go for it! But don't put in the order for those changes until you come back here to review them.

  • 4 years ago

    Hoodsly will make a hood as deep as you need it to be. I believe their standard is 19", but that can be increased.

  • 4 years ago

    The problem with Hoodley is that their reverse engineering works in reverse. Wood hoods should be customized to fit a specific insert, custom built around tgem. Reverse engineering.


    When you build a big giant box, without any idea of what insert can be used, you end up with an awkward fire hazard of exposed wood over the cooking surface. You now need a custom stainless insert to cover all of that wood, Plus the filtration mechanism, and blower setup.


    What do you think works much worse and costs more? A custom wood surrounding a whole previously designed system of a hood insert? Or a a created wood box that now has to have all of the insert and components custom designed to fit together and work?

  • 4 years ago

    I haven't purchased a hood from Hoodsly, but have looked at their website. They sell them with an insert if you choose to go that route; I believe there are 3 to choose from: Zline, Vent-a-Hood and one other that I wasn't familiar with. Just a simple suggestion to the OP, because she mentioned Hoodsly in her original post.

  • 4 years ago

    I've not read through all of the comments but the gist I'm getting is that this process is backwards. OP needs to determine what they need from a functional standpoint (hoods are a functional health element of a home, not just aesthetic) and then find a hood that meets those requirements.

    More: https://bamasotan.us/range-exhaust-hood-faq/


  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    My kitchen designer insists that I need 39” clearance for a 36” hood. The hood needs to be 900 CFM. I just spoke with Hoodsy and they say that I can do a 36” hood and find an insert that fits the spec of 34.5x22.5 that is 900 CFM. Then the hood would need to be color matched. I am worried I will create a design nightmare and probably just need to stick with the stainless which isnt ideal..

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    If you want wood in your kitchen, you can bring it in with any of the following: cutting board(s), floating shelves, some type of wooden wine rack (wall mounted or counter), wooden tray(s), some type of wood counter stools (as per your photo at the top), woven wood blinds/shades, etc, etc.

















    Or - redo your kitchen, and put in the wood hood.

  • 4 years ago

    I am not going to redo a kitchen that will be installed in a few weeks, but thanks for the suggestion lol

  • 4 years ago

    Sorry this has become so difficult for you. Why will a 36" stainless hood fit but not a 36" wood hood? My cabinet guy said he would paint the hoodsly hood to match our cabinets, if that is what we choose to go with. But like you, I'm probably just going with stainless, because it is simpler in the long run. We are going to use a Zephyr Venezia, with a shorter chimney like in the photo below. I plan on tiling behind it to add a little interest. You could possibly cancel the cabinets above the hood in your design to fit in a different style stainless hood.

    Reflection and Light in Mission Viejo - Lake View · More Info


  • 4 years ago

    @telesaps..thank you. And right on about why a stainless steel hood will fit and not a wood hood. That was sort of hoodsys point to.. I think it can be done, but not without some aggravation…

  • 4 years ago

    Fire codes and the fact that wood is combustible is why. It goes back ro requiring that every bit of wood avove the cooking zone MUST be covered in a custom stainless liner. Hoodsley does not do that. They pass the buck by selling it as a decorative shroud, without telling you that it will not pass inspection without custom alterations.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    "I need 39” clearance for a 36” hood"

    Actually, the best distance between the cooktop and the bottom of the hood is between 30" and 36". Higher than that, and the effluent has more of a chance to escape.

    "why a stainless steel hood will fit and not a wood hood."

    As said several times in this thread, a wood hood needs more width and height both for it to look good and because it tends to be made more shallowly than a stainless steel hood. Your OP inspiration photo and the photos provided by @Miranda33 demonstrate this well. Furthermore, as you are aware, the cabinet that has been ordered pictured in your second photo will only allow enough space for the low profile hood that you ordered.

    As mentioned, you can choose to order new upper cabinets to fit the wood hood surround that you like that have been pictured in this thread, whether made by Hoodsly or Greenfield. A stainless steel hood of good quality like I suggested above will only need the one cabinet replaced that it will hang from. You could also do away with that cabinet entirely and get a stainless steel chimney hood.

    There is no mystery why a stainless steel hood will fit and not a wood hood. Both will fit if you are willing to make changes and expenditures. Also keep in mind that these changes entail significant wait times for the cabinetry order.

    At this point, we are just engaging in repetition. Sit down with your designer and tell her you want to make the changes and pay the money and have the wait time for these changes. The End.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    After pushing and pushing the KD - and her telling me it cant be done without changing the upper cabinet dimensions, I found an image online from a local design firm who uses the same cabinet co. The KD then confirmed this CAN be done with current dimensions, it will need to be slightly custom for height…. AND Wolfe confirmed there is a blower that fits the dimensions....based on the range I am using with them.

  • 4 years ago

    Here is image

  • 4 years ago

    Great news! Your persistence paid off and I'm sure you kitchen will be beautiful.