Software
Houzz Logo Print
judijunebugarizonazn8

Help for Lighting Over Dining Table

So looking at my photo of my dining room, you can see that I currently have no lighting over the table. This area was originally called the family room, but we use it as the dining room since it’s all one large room with the kitchen. The formal dining room around the corner is being repurposed as a library.
I have taken over 3 years getting lighting installed because of cost, as well as confusion. Originally, I thought to put a long linear pendant over the table, but could find nothing that worked well. The room is large and my table is a good 10 ft long. I have pretty much decided that 3 lights would look better, perhaps hung at different levels so it looks less formal. According to the rules of keeping 6 inches clear on each side of the table, I could use lights up to 30 inches wide. But I’m thinking that large would look overdone if there are three…perhaps 18 to 24 inches wide would be good? This area has a high, sloped ceiling, so probably they should have a bit more height than width? Please let me know if I’m thinking on track or not.

Input would be much appreciated. My taste pretty obviously runs toward farmhouse/French country/shabby chic. The island lighting finish is rust colored and I want something above the table that complements the island lights.

Comments (47)

  • 4 years ago

    Thanks, Mirodemi. The groupings are very artistic, but all three of your choices are glitzy, modern lighting options, not at all suitable for my space. I prefer something much quieter, though still artistic and beautiful.

  • 4 years ago

    Here’s a few ideas.


    Iredell St · More Info

    Perhaps two would be enough for your ten foot table.



    My Houzz: Pretty Tropical Touches in South Carolina · More Info

    I think your room would look nice with this texture.


    Farmhouse Kitchen · More Info

    I like the simplicity of these industrial lamps.

  • 4 years ago



    House in Sonoma · More Info

    Perhaps something like these but a larger diameter.


  • 4 years ago

    This is a hard one! Somehow the chair backs 'get in the way' of most of my mock-up attempts. I thought an oversized linear fixture might be good, but in the end I liked this one best:


    But it does get a little lost with the paint color. And I removed artwork from wall because with it and the chair backs, there was just too much going on.



    Or more casually, and as you mentioned, multiple and taller:




  • 4 years ago

    I love the way the arms of the first chandelier mjlb posted echos the curve of the chair backs. It looks like a nice pairing.

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you, mjlb and ffpalms. You both have some great ideas and your mock-ups are so helpful with visualizing different styles in my space. I realize that I could probably do with only two, but I have two lights over my island and feel it would look repetitive to have two over my table. I really want an uneven number over the table, either one or three. Because of the artwork on the walls, I want to go with open, airy lights, preferably no glass shades for ease of cleaning. I like the height of the last three pictured…but I think they are too “dense”, though they really do make a statement. I guess my biggest question is about size, not style. What rule of thumb do I use to figure the size that looks best when using three over the table with a high ceiling?

  • 4 years ago

    I agree that the 3 woven pendants are dense - they would be much better in an open weave. However, I didn't easily find an open weave pendant with a diffuser (so you don't see the light source -- one of my pet peeves). Those 3 pendants are 15-in wide x 29-in high. Below is a photo that might help visualize that.


    I'm not sure about a rule of thumb, but if hanging 3 pendants over a table that is 120-in, then there are 7 segments __x__x__x__ (3 pendants and 4 spaces), so 120-in / 7 = 17-in as a starting point for width of pendant. Because the shape of a pendant or chandelier can vary, as can the spaces between, I think a mock-up is recommended.



  • 4 years ago

    I’ve read suggestions on other threads to blow up balloons to the diameter of any pendant you’re considering, then tape them to the ceiling at the height that you like to find the best balance for your room. This will inform you if the size is right.

  • 4 years ago

    It would be helpful to posters to show a photo of your current pendants and their relationship to the dining room.

  • 4 years ago

    Here's a similar shape, but more open (alas, no diffuser, tho'). Lots of different sizes and shapes of woven pendants on arturest.com





  • 4 years ago

    Thank you, mjlb, for breaking it down for me like that. I hadn’t thought of the concept of 3 lights an 4 spaces, but of course! It makes perfect sense and gives me just what I need to be able to think logically. Also, the idea of blowing balloons up to give me a better visual example of what I’m looking at. I do really like the rattan look, especially the bell shaped ones, but again, anything like that tends to block my artwork. Here are several example of styles I really like. Not sure which direction I’ll go, but having a size guide will help a lot with narrowing my choices! Your mock-up work is so helpful, and I want to thank you so much for giving me some concrete direction here.

  • 4 years ago

    this is hard bc I want to say two black chandeliers, classic timeless. BUT you hake two heavy large pendants over the island.

    you have a lot of hard lines, this is the chateau series from MF a few crystals might help.



  • 4 years ago

    I would say also you dont have to put all or any of the crystals on the lines will still be thre.

  • 4 years ago

    That’s true. Most times the crystals are optional. Thanks!

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Really love the dancing basket lamp everdebz just a posted a link to. I went down the rabbit hole and found several that made me wish I had a place for all of them. Here’s the dancing basket photo:



  • 4 years ago

    One other option to consider is one central pendant or chandelier, flanked by a recessed can on each side. Or for a 10' table, maybe 2 recessed cans on each side. That's what we've decided to do for our 8' dining table. That lets you go with a dramatic central fixture but get adequate lighting for the full table length. This website gives examples and guidelines on placement. https://digthisdesign.net/diy-tips/dining-table-lighting/

  • 4 years ago

    The dancing basket is cute. Very cute! But not sure it’s got enough height to it and maybe a little too informal and boho for my taste in this room. Thanks for all your ideas and options. Can lights are an option, mcarroll, though maybe a bit more difficult to get right with a sloped ceiling?

  • 4 years ago

    For a sloped ceiling you use gimbal trims (adjustable angle), or angle-cut lights, so that they shine directly down at the floor.

  • 4 years ago

    LED wafer lights would be a solution to the slope if its an issue, however they will follow the slope and direct the light out that way. you should really put in remodel slope ceiling cans. but I dont think the room needs that. it has a lot of straight lines so it needs some curves id move the two word pictures to the side wall and bring in some color to the back wall.




  • 4 years ago

    @RL Relocation, is that chandelier adequate lighting for a 10' table, without additional cans or other light? Asking for my own research, not just for OP.

  • 4 years ago

    The length of the chandelier she proposed is 41”, width is 22” and height is 28”. I am uncertain as to whether that is sufficient for a 10 ft table myself. Maybe RL will have an answer for us.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    6x60 should light up mars lol. ceiling height, room size and wall color all play into this, lots of factors. Here is a smaller scale room with light walls and ceiling the light should bounce around nicely. Thats 360watts of light, convert that to LED at about 4 watts thats 24 watts if you went that low, which is about the = to a 100 watt bulb! thats a lot of light.

  • 4 years ago

    I’m not sure what you’re referring to when you mention that ”8x60 should light up Mars.” A joke, I know, but where does the 8x60 come from? Neither my room or table or chandelier is 8x60.

  • 4 years ago

    6= the number of sockets 60= the max wattage of the bulb x those numbers to get the total wattage.

    I made some changes to my post. for clarity.

  • 4 years ago

    Ive never lamped a chandelier on a regular ceiling with more than 25w per socket. and had a dimmer. unless you are on a vault.

  • 4 years ago

    W 28" / H 25.6"

    no? I can delete.


    Farmhouse 9-Light Wood Beaded Chandelier Candle Empire Chandeliers · More Info


  • 4 years ago

    W 32.25" / D 17" / H 44.75"


    Kirkland 6-Light Trestle Chandelier, English Bronze and Warm Brass · More Info


  • 4 years ago

    W 11.5" / D 48" / H 26" / 27 lbs. Wood, Cord, Sockets, Edison Bulbs

    in choice of finishes...


    Rustic Edison Bulb Chandelier, Antique White, Brass, Suspended · More Info


  • 4 years ago

    W 36" / D 18" / H 22.75"


    Kichler 1673 Hendrik 6 Light 36"W Chandelier - Olde Bronze · More Info


  • 4 years ago

    Here is exactly what I want. Perfect size, simple and airy without the straight modern lines of so many fixtures. Just enough curves to be graceful without looking overdone… just what I want! Except the price…just a few bucks less than $2000.
    Way out of my budget. Can you hear me wailing over here?

  • 4 years ago

    That's really nice!! Hopefully one of our shopping sleuths can find something similar (?) and way less $$$.

  • 4 years ago

    If I could find an open box one marked waaay down, I would be elated. Or a damaged one that could be fixed up a bit…that’s my style of shopping.

  • 4 years ago

    I hope you’re right, salonva, that some savvy shoppers on here will be able to help me out!

  • 4 years ago

    I hope so too. I am not too good at it, but when I tried it seemed consistently $1959, with one that was $2159. It really is so unique. I tried with the image because I found with other fixtures, they go by different names. In this case though at least preliminarily, it's only coming up with that name.


    Hope someone can work magic. I wonder if you contacted some of the sites that sell it (Circa Lighting, LightingNEwYork, etc etc) and ask if there are any open box?

  • 4 years ago

    Maybe start a new thread asking if anyone can find the light (or close to it) for a good price?

  • 4 years ago

    I would second the suggestion to email them and ask about returns/open box. I found a visual comfort floor lamp that was the only one I could find that was the exact look, size, function, etc. They were really expensive, and I searched forever trying to find sales, discount codes, etc. I actually emailed them and they had 1 open box, but it was a different color/finish, so I had to finally splurge. But worth asking if they have any open boxed ones.

  • 4 years ago

    Thanks, everdebz, but no, not smaller.

  • 4 years ago

    progress-parkhurst-island-lighting-p400300

  • 4 years ago

    That one is pretty nice! here's another similar.

    I will say that the one you are looking for is really outstanding but it looks like it's just going to be out of budget.



  • 4 years ago

    This is off topic..but how many people regularly use this table?…if not all the chairs are needed …all the time ….is there room to move two of the chairs back next to each end of the buffet?..making all the spots easier to get in an out of?

  • 4 years ago

    Btydrvn, to answer your OT question, my house is one of those places where people are always coming and going and everyone knows there’s food and a place at my table. So all the chairs are used. Not at every meal of every day, but very frequently. The table is not as close to the buffet as it might appear on the photo. My dining space is large enough that I can afford to let plenty of space between the table and buffet and all the places at the table are easily accessible.
    And to those of you who suggested I contact those who sell this light regarding open box or damaged lights, thank you. I’m currently waiting to hear back.

  • 4 years ago

    Keep us posted. I have to say, that truly is a stunning fixture and while we may have found "somewhat similar" , so far, that one is special.