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Irritated Over Dog Vaccines

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

I owned a low cost pet vaccination service that I started in the 1980s.

In the early 1990s there was a lot of noise about dogs not really needing the core vaccines (distemper/parvo combo) annually. Evidence showed that the vaccines lasted at least 3 years and may provide lifelong protection. I knew this was going to be a game changer for my business and my income was going to be negatively impacted by this change.

I prepared for this change - went back to school and studied computer science/network engineering/database management so that I could do something else to supplement my income. I abandoned my business in 2010.


Vaccine manufacturers and veterinarians fought attempts to change the guidelines, but as evidence grew there was no denying that the distemper/parvo shot was not needed every year.

It is more than 20 years since the AAHA (American Animal Hospital Association) officially changed their recommendation for the core vaccines, changing the recommended booster period be extended to once every 3 years. They have also changed the recommendation for dogs who are overdue. They used to recommend that dogs who were more than 6 months past the vaccination due date get two doses 2-4 weeks apart, but changed that to "Administer a single dose. Revaccinate every 3 years thereafter."

My dog had her vaccination series as a puppy.

She got vaccines again one year after her puppy series. She has gone to the vet and had boosters on her non-core bordetella and Lyme vaccines, but didn't need to distemper and parvo at age 2 or 3.

She is now 4 years old and I took her to a PetVet low cost pet vaccination service at the local Tractor Supply Company store.

They gave my dog her shots and then told me that my dog should come back in 4 weeks for boosters.

I explained that my dog was not overdue for vaccinations and even if she was, she would not need boosters in 4 weeks.

The veterinarian and staff member who was helping me both told me they can't change the companies policy and that if I wanted her vaccination record updated I needed to call customer service.

I called customer service and the girl on the phone told me she doesn't have the authority to change my dogs vaccination record. I asked her to have someone call me back who has authority to fix my pet's record. When I didn't get a call back I called their vet hotline and got the same song and dance. I don't have the authority to change the companies policy or your pets vaccination record.

I then sent an e-mail to the company with the current recommendations by the AAHA attached.

Still no response.

I know that my dog does not need additional vaccines, but I also know that if her records are not updated that the boarding kennel will not accept her for boarding and I have health issues and have been hospitalized 4 times in the past 5 years, so I need her records to show that she is fully vaccinated and not overdue for her distemper and parvo vaccines.

The law allows veterinarians and human physicians to determine the appropriate vaccination schedule for your dog because your dog may have some other risk factor that makes them more susceptible or at higher exposure risk and may need additional protection. (Your pet is immune compromised or you are traveling to a country with high prevalence of disease or you foster stray dogs for the local shelter). The AAHA recommendations are based on normal risk factors and should be followed unless there is some additional risk factor.

At this point I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I can revaccinate, but my dog has had a vaccine reaction in the past and is at greater risk for an adverse reaction than other dogs and really does not need the vaccines, but if I don't have her revaccinated and I get hospitalized or have to travel for some reason she can't be boarded.

There is no reason that this company is following protocols that are more than 20 years outdated except higher profit margins. They are putting our animals at higher risk for adverse reactions where there is zero benefit to the animal getting the additional vaccines.

This company is one of many vaccine services and many individual veterinarians who are still using the antiquated guidelines to help their bottom line. This is legal, but unethical. These doctors take an oath that they will do no harm, but they are putting our pets lives at risk for the love of the dollar.

I hope that others read this and understand what is happening and start being more assertive when veterinarians or vaccine act unethically and recommend that we over vaccinate our animals so they can drive nicer cars.

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"The 2022 AAHA Canine Vaccination Guidelines are available at aaha.org/canine-vaccinations. These guidelines were prepared by a Task Force of experts convened by the American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA) and were subjected to a formal peer-review process. This document is intended as a guideline only, not an AAHA standard of care. These guidelines and recommendations should not be construed as dictating an exclusive protocol, course of treatment, or procedure. Variations in practice may be warranted based on the needs of the individual patient, resources, and limitations unique to each individual practice setting. ©2022 AAHA"





Comments (12)

  • 3 years ago

    The only thing I can think of is to take your dog to a vet that you trust and have a tither done and see if he can update the records or have a note in the records that your dog is adequately protected.

  • 3 years ago

    Titer.

  • 3 years ago

    I think my question is more, what can we do as pet owners to stop this type of systematic practice of over vaccinating our pets and forcing pet owners to comply because boarding facilities and grooming establishments require the vets sign off on the vaccine booster date.


    When you think about this company going just to the 840 tractor supply stores in the US and scheduling the clinics every other week. They are seeing at least 30 dogs at each clinic (conservative estimate - our average was over 50 per clinic) that is still over 12000 dogs that they are vaccinating each week. The DA2PP vaccine costs them $5.00 and they are charging $41. By requiring 3 times the number of vaccines as are necessary that is 8000 x $36 or $288,000 a week / $14 million a year in excess charges for unnecessary vaccines.


    Your pediatrician has the same legal right to alter vaccine schedules to meet the unique needs of your child, but no pediatrician would systematically over vaccinate our kids without risking their license. Why are veterinarians allowed to do this without any risk.



  • 3 years ago

    I had a local vet for my cat for a good 8 years. Every year I would get a postcard in the mail, “ he is due for his rabies shot.” Every year, $100.00 visit for his yearly shot. I then moved to another town and found a new vet close by. I told the new vet he was probably due for his rabies shot, he told me after two yearly doses he’s good for three years! I was so angry with that first vet, what should have cost me $300.00 I ended up paying $800.00… not to mention how that affected the health of my boy, who knows! It’s really unscrupulous to take advantage of people like that. I agree, Jennifer, it’s a problem.

  • 3 years ago

    Sorry this is happening to you, Jennifer. My dog only gets a rabies booster every 3 years, so I understand your pov.

  • 3 years ago

    I just don't know what I can do to stop this practice of looking out for the health of the veterinarians pockets over the health of the animals.


    It seems to me that if one company is making millions of dollars lying and cheating and that many others are doing the same thing there should be something that the public can do to put a stop to it.


    You cannot do this in human medicine, but it is somehow acceptable with veterinary medicine?

    Doesn't make sense.

  • 3 years ago

    I have enough money to get titers or get my dog revaccinated, but how many people are having to make a choice in caring for their animal or caring for their kids or doing something extra for their kids. This is just so wrong.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    It is wrong, Jennifer.

    There are human vaccine protocols that don't make sense for everyone, every time.

    (Before someone jumps on me, my whole family are vaccinated for everything! Including covid! Not what I'm talking about). I have argued up and down with doctors over various issues (and DH is a physician, too, but every so often he disagreed with whatever pediatrician we were seeing).

    And really, you have a 2-fold problem, because not only is the veterinarian place doing things unethically that help their bottom line, but the place you board your dog is unsophisticated and inflexible. I would be annoyed and irritated with this , too, in your shoes.

    I have a lot of questions about what veterinarians recommend and do, but I won't hijack your thread over it. You are corrrect, this is WRONG.


    Edited to add: Jennifer, name the company if it's a big one. Call them out, so others can read and judge for themselves.

  • 3 years ago

    most (i dare say "all") boarding facilities/training centers do not accept titers as proof and, at least around here, titers are not acceptable for registering your dog with the county for licensing purposes.

    not only that ^ but there's the task of finding a vet who will even DO titers. there are none within 50 miles of me who will.

    Jennifer Hogan thanked Ninapearl
  • 3 years ago

    I hear contradictory things about my cat's rabies vaccine. I've had people tell me that the vaccine is good for three years - whether you load Fluffy in the car every year or once every three, it's the same vaccine at the same dose. Vet said nope, she still doesn't like the "three year" vaccine. The current Fluffy isn't boarded though, and hasn't reacted badly to any vaccine. (Viewing the carrier is another story)

    Jennifer Hogan thanked c t
  • 3 years ago

    Because Rabies is transmittable to people the vaccination schedule is usually dictated by state and local law. Some states only require that dogs be vaccinated, most require dogs, cats and ferrets to be vaccinated.


    The law for each state is summarized here:


    https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/2021-08/State-Rabies-Vaccination-Laws-Chart.pdf


    If your state requires vaccination for cats, the vet really does not have the authority to over-ride state mandates.


    Again, different states have different rules and some allow use of either one or 3 year rabies vaccines, some only allow 3 year vaccines to be used.


    For cats there is an additional risk factor that many cat owners don't know about - injection site sarcomas. https://www.avma.org/resources-tools/pet-owners/petcare/vaccines-and-sarcomas-concern-cat-owners


    Because of the risk of injection site sarcomas, at this point in time I would only use the recombinant, adjuvant free vaccines developed by Merial - bought out by Boehringer Ingelheim and sold under the name PureVax. The original PureVax was a one year vaccine, but they have a 3 year formula available now.


    It is an expensive vaccine and may not be available through every veterinary hospital (they have to buy 25 at a time, and may not sell enough to warrant the expense).


    If my vet used anything other than PureVax I would want it to be a 3 year vaccine and would only allow administration in the tail. (Can be amputated if a sarcoma develops).

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