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Are these closets too small for a Primary Suite?

3 years ago

We found a spot to fit a side-by-side washer and dryer in the hallway if we take one side of a walk in closet in the primary suite addition. We personally don't care as these closets are significantly larger than what we have now, but our architect gave us the ominous "Are you sure you want to do that?" so we're questioning if it's a bad idea to have a w/d closet there. We have a set in the basement, we'd like a set upstairs.


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  • 3 years ago

    Of course not everyone needs the same amount of closet space and I understand that if this is more than you're used to it may seem adequate. How many square feet is this house overall? How old is this house? Do you have an idea from other houses you have seen in your neighborhood (maybe when you were house hunting), what the general expectation is?


    Depending on your answers to the questions above, you may not have enough closet space if you take some it of to use for a W/D. After doing that you are left with 5 feet in the one closet and 5-6 feet in the other. The closet next to the bathroom has a little bit more room, but its usefulness is limited - it looks like it has a window. This wouldn't be adequate for a lot of people. Does the bathroom need to be remodeled? You could get some space back out of it for more closet space by changing its layout. If you wouldn't miss a water closet and/or a tub you have possibilities there.

    Hillary thanked kandrewspa
  • 3 years ago

    @kandrewspa thank you for taking the time to respond to this! The whole screenshot is the addition we're working on. The house after the addition will be 3500 sq ft. A 5 piece bathroom in the master is expected in the area, but I am not sure how about closet space. The area is all homes from the 1900s. Post addition the home size will be more aligned with existing homes in our neighborhood.


    I asked for a window in that closet so I can use it as a small desk space for myself it gets beautiful sunlight in the morning and I felt it was also needed from the exterior.


    We can keep a stacked set in the kids shared bathroom to keep the closet the original size, this side-by-side closet option would give more room for storage and for hanging dry clothes.



  • 3 years ago

    Overall impression: This master suite has loads of floor space, but the functional areas (closets and bath) are on the skimpy side. Specific thoughts:


    - Since your other washer/dryer is in the basement (and I'm thinking this is a second-floor master), I'm 100% sure a washer/dryer in this area would be appreciated. It'd be a huge step-saver.

    - Having said that, adding a washer/dryer as you suggest will leave you with fairly small closet storage -- and I'm not a big clothes horse. If you make this choice, you'll definitely need a large dresser on the wall across from the bed.

    - On top of having a small closet space, you're looking at putting a desk into the closet? No, it's just not going to work. If you want the closet space to be a pocket office, you need to carve out another closet elsewhere.

    - Whether 5'2" x 6' area becomes a pocket office or remains a closet, I'd say lose the pocket door ... the entrance is located around a corner, so no need for a door.

    - You have a good-sized office very close by -- how about giving over the current closet to the pocket office project /making this office into a nice big closet?

    - Perhaps you could make the office into a large closet with laundry ... and each spouse could have a pocket office in the spaces now marked as closets.

    - Could you alter the door so that the now-office is part of the master suite?

    - Note that right now you've placed the washer/dryer very close to a sleeper's head. That isn't ideal.


    Other thoughts:

    - Note that the bedroom's entrance door forces you towards the bathroom upon entering. This would be better if it were flip-flopped ... and it's another reason to consider moving the door back /incorporating the now-office area into the master suite.

    - The bathroom vanity doesn't seem to be large enough to support duplicate sinks ... well, it can support sinks but that'll leave you with zero drawers at the sink. If you plan a sink without storage, you're going to find that your countertops are always cluttered.

    - Note that the inswing door in the toilet-closet will be problematic (aren't they always?). Look at the floor plan and think about where you will stand while you close the door ... you'll realize that door won't close because your body will be in the swing space.

    - 5'2 is on the short side for a toilet-closet. Measure public rest rooms and friend's half-baths to get a visual of how much space you're allotting.

    - I don't think you have any storage AT the toilet. Where will your extra toilet paper go now? As you grow older, many people need medical products AT the toilet, but you have no space for any such things.

    - Where are your wet shower towels going to hang? Tub towels? Where is your hamper? You'll have one trash can in the toilet-closet ... where will your vanity trash can be placed?

    Hillary thanked Mrs Pete
  • 3 years ago

    @Mrs Pete I really appreciate such a thorough, thoughtful response! It gave me lots to think about. I'm stumped for where to put towels. The office must count as the 5th bedroom, so we'd like to keep it a separate room. My husband also works full-time remotely so he needs the space away from the noise and clutter for video meetings.. I just need a desk chair for my laptop when I need to hide from my kids.


    The WC needs a pocket door for sure. The vanity is 7 feet long plus the linen closet so it's pretty large. The vanity we're considering has a drawer section in the middle. I don't think the vanity sinks are to scale in the drawing. We currently use a Serena and Lily basket in the bedroom for a hamper, but we could have a built-in one in the linen closet. Everything else goes in the linen closet (toilet paper, towels etc).


    We never had such a large bathroom before to consider two trash cans, haha!


    It seems easier to just put a stacked W/D in a shared bathroom instead


  • 3 years ago

    You might want to draw a to-scale bed and nightstands, and whatever else you will have in the bedroom. I wonder about the door, the stub wall, and how convenient it will be to go in and out, get to the closet on the left and to that side of the bed.

    Looks like you’ll have a nice sitting area through the archway, and the suite seems fairly orivate already, so I think I’d just do a comfy little chair in the sitting area, in a secluded corner formed by moving the closet door to face the bedroom.

    In the bathroom, my two boys have a vanity with a single bank of 3 drawers between the two sinks. They could have used 4 shallower drawers instead. DH and I each have 2 kind if deep drawers, and I wish we had a couple of shallow drawers. Anyway Anyway, all that just to say, measure the things you use at the sink, and plan the drawers accordingly. I’d not want to always be going to the linen cabinet for stuff.

    Hillary thanked bpath
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I'm stumped for where to put towels.

    I don't have an answer, but don't start the process until you know! It's small things like this that'll end up driving you crazy.

    The office must count as the 5th bedroom, so we'd like to keep it a separate room. My husband also works full-time remotely so he needs the space away from the noise and clutter for video meetings..

    So you're using it as a bedroom ... and your husband is using it for work?

    If you were to make this space a closet, your husband would have the currently-allotted-for-washer-dryer closet space as a pocket office.

    If you can't move the washer/dryer to this area, I think I'd scrap the project and keep what you have now as closet space ... even though it will mean hauling laundry upstairs.

    I just need a desk chair for my laptop when I need to hide from my kids.

    Why not go with a small desk in the alcove /keep the closet for storage? What will you do at the small desk? If most of your desk-work would be on the computer, you might consider a small chest (for office-type storage) next to a comfortable chair and a lap-desk.

    Regardless of where your work space ends up, don't neglect outlets in the right places.

    The WC needs a pocket door for sure.

    Needs? I'd think through the reality of using this space -- it's small, and the door isn't going to close once a person's in the room.

    I don't think the vanity sinks are to scale in the drawing.

    Yes, 7' would allow for a single bank of drawers to be shared between spouses. I suggest going through your current items /measuring what you need to store in those drawers.

    Everything else goes in the linen closet (toilet paper, towels etc).

    A hamper in the lower half /storage above sounds good for the linen closet. The one problem is the toilet paper being stored across the bathroom from the toilet.

    We never had such a large bathroom before to consider two trash cans, haha!

    In my old house we had two trash cans in two bathrooms ... I'm all about efficiency and hated doing four trash cans every trash day.

    You might want to draw a to-scale bed and nightstands, and whatever else you will have in the bedroom.

    A good idea.

    I’d not want to always be going to the linen cabinet for stuff.

    Yes, drawer storage at the sink is essential.

  • 3 years ago

    "A 5 piece bathroom in the master is expected in the area, but I am not sure how about closet space."


    It seems to me that a neighborhood that expects such a large master bath would expect a LOT of master closet space. Future buyers can learn to live with a tub/shower combo, or just a shower, but will walk right out the door if the closets are woefully inadequate (which yours seem to be, even without the WD).

  • 3 years ago

    I don't know what to tell you, but the space as designed feels very awkward and not well thought out.


    Why all the jigs and jogs in on the perimeter? why have walk in closets that don't provide any additional storage compared to a reach in closet? What is the rest of the floor plan for that floor of the home. Something better has to be able to be designed for the space.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    @Jennifer Hogan The "jigs and jogs" on the perimeter are eaves from the gable roofline as this is a 1910 Dutch Colonial. The rest of the second floor will not be touched for this addition.

  • 3 years ago

    @Sabrina Alfin Interiors thank you, we decided not to do a W/D in that space and we will stick to the plan of having a stacked W/D in the kid's bathroom.

  • 3 years ago

    I was actually thinking of the bedroom itself having all the jigs and jogs - I would need to have a room that was symmetrical. When I see oddly shaped rooms they never feel like originals, they scream addition.


    If you moved the shower you could achieve the look on the left instead of your current design. You would loose the linen closet, but this was a 10 minute play for someone who is not a design expert - maybe one of the interior design experts could help you fit that in or do something better.




  • 3 years ago

    @Jennifer Hogan I appreciate the layouts! We've been tweaking with our architect for the last few months. We lose a lot of space in that large landing because we need 2 steps up without modifying the original staircase, that feels like dead space but we're not sure how to improve further without adding more cost or adding more square footage. I do like the shower to the side and how the door shifts, it could swing to a solid wall.

  • 3 years ago

    @Hillary, I knew I didn't have all the details, just some food for thought. I have done a lot of renovations and there is always something gumming things up.

  • 3 years ago

    I have not read all the replies, so this might be redundant.


    I"I asked for a window in that closet so I can use it as a small desk space for myself"


    Will you use that closet strictly as an office, or will clothes be stored in there? If you plan on also storing clothing there, be aware that the natural light will fade the clothing, especially the part facing the window (sleeves, etc)