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Master shower plumbing totally off center, please help!!

3 years ago

Hi, I would like to know if it is worth it to redo my master bath plumbing after a pretty big mistake.

I've been doing a whole house reno for the past 4 months, we are getting toward the end and I feel my GC is rushing now that he is moving on to other projects. Lately, I'm finding more & more things that I wish had been brought to my attn. I've never ever done construction or a home reno, this is all completely new to me (he knows this) so I don't even know what questions to ask and I thought someone with 3 decades experience would know that symmetry is so very important especially in places like kitchen and master bath. Both places I've had issues with something being off or measured incorrectly, and when I bring to his attn he gets very flustered with me, tells me it wouldn't bother him & that I'm too picky!

I'm attaching the current issue. I had never seen plumbing behind the wall before and maybe stupidly thought things would be centered once they completed everything.

That is on me because I did see the symmetry was off before they ever tiled the shower.

I brought it up to him and he mumbled something about the stud being in the way, I can't totally recall word for word but he indicated that basically it has to stay that way.

The problem is, I had them tile more of the wall to increase the size of the shower. The old shower was smaller, this one is slightly bigger and that is throwing everything off now.

But it's not even centered over the drain and I thought that was standard protocol :(.

I've texted the GC that I'd like to discuss this tomorrow but I know I'll get total pushback just like I did on the kitchen island when I discovered 1 side is 1/2 inch longer than the other (he put in spacers on 1 side) and is causing 1 side to bow out + slightly tilts it over on the flooring. I can live with that, once the countertops are on it prob won't be noticeable to anyone but me. Just hoping structurally there won't be issues down the road. He REALLY did not want to fix it!


But this master shower....I'm going to think of this one every single day until I have it fixed.

I doubt he will fix it on his dime. At this point, I do understand I will have to pay for it to be redone.


My questions are:

1. Was this a hard fix or was he just being lazy from the get go??

2. Can anyone gander a guess at what this fix will cost me? I'm in metro Atlanta, prices seem crazy on everything here lately ugh.

3. What if we don't do a total fix, but instead just move the hand shower? Is that possible and would moving to the right side at least even out the symmetry somewhat?







Comments (22)

  • 3 years ago

    I'd be more concerned about if that shower was waterproofed correctly

  • 3 years ago

    Honestly, I would have never noticed it if you didn't point it out. Will there be a glass panels or a door there? Personally I'd let it go, but that's just me. Lovely bathroom.

  • 3 years ago

    Would you share your floor tile, please? Contractors drive me bonkers. Men, in general, don't care about symmetry or aesthetics for the most part. :(

  • 3 years ago

    @cpartist What makes you question waterproofing, is there something I should ask about that??

  • 3 years ago

    @einportlandor There will be a glass panel on the back by the seat/ledge and a glass door w/ panel too.

  • 3 years ago

    @keep_faith Bathroom floor tiles + shower floor tile came from Floor&Decor! Great pricing!! My shower tiles have a shimmer, those came from The Tile Shop. I actually had a much more pricey shower floor tile picked out from that store also but it was backordered & the GC was ready to move on the tiling so I found something very similar from Floor&Decor that saved substantial $$.

  • 3 years ago

    It looks like he put backer board on one wall and partly up a second wall, then waterproofed that before putting up the rest of the backer board. Of course I could be wrong.

  • 3 years ago

    @cpartist Possibly. I wasn't there when the waterproofing was done, so I'll have to hope it was done properly. When I stood in the shower yesterday it just feels like I'm in the corner, I really hope we can find a solution!!

  • 3 years ago

    The off center plumbing doesnt bother me. I think, once you get either a door on the shower, or a shower curtain, whichever you are using, that you are not going to notice it either. I might worry more about a bow in the kitchen island, and the weight of countertops on it.

  • 3 years ago

    @cat_ky Okay thank you for your advice, I'm def concerned about the island too. I'm surprised more people haven't told me to consider redoing the plumbing. Maybe I'm just a bit too OCD about symmetry. There will be a glass door, and I do plan to ask the GC tomorrow if it's possible to just move the hand shower to the other side. Behind that plumbing is 1 of the master closets, and it's currently not complete so he previously told me any plumbing work could be accessed fr there so I'll see how that goes over now that tiling is done.

  • 3 years ago

    You aren't too OCD but I do think it'll be okay once the glass is in. It's really pretty and most folks won't notice it.


    I think the other side of the stud might have been better but it might still have been off-center and it's probably better to have the water further away from the door. But yeah. Maybe if you let this go you can use accrued brownie points to fix the kitchen.

  • 3 years ago

    @cpartist Possibly. I wasn't there when the waterproofing was done, so I'll have to hope it was done properly.

    Ask him how he waterproofed the shower and then let us know. If it wasn't done properly, you're looking at possible water leaking.

    When I stood in the shower yesterday it just feels like I'm in the corner, I really hope we can find a solution!!

    To me it looks like those corner shelves are the issue.

    I might worry more about a bow in the kitchen island, and the weight of countertops on it.

    Me too.

    I do plan to ask the GC tomorrow if it's possible to just move the hand shower to the other side.

    Sure you can if you don't care about ruining the waterproofing.

  • 3 years ago

    @cpartist So it's not possible to open up the closet side wall & move the hand shower attachment over to the right side, then install new tiles on the left side (I have a ton leftover, had not returned them yet) -- that would ruin the waterproofing doing it that way?

  • 3 years ago

    Any time, you change things under the tile surface, it damages the water proofing. Quite honestly, its just not worth taking the chance. Its not an in your face thing, its in a shower, that will only be noticed when you are in that shower. After a month, you wont even notice that its off center. Right now, you see it, every time you go into the bathroom, but, your bathroom isnt finished yet, and when it is, it wont be noticable. The bowed cabinet in the kitchen, is another story, that would worry me a lot. If that cabinet should collapse from being bowed, and then the weight of the countertop, it could badly injure anyone, that is close to it. Concentrate your OCD on that, and get it repaired correctly.

  • 3 years ago

    The corner shelves seem to be weighing down the view. If they were eliminated, it would look more balanced.

  • 3 years ago

    The stud could have been moved. It still can, but might not need to since he notched the heck out of it anyway. If you choose to go the trouble and expense to move the mixing valve, showerhead, and handheld I would then opt for a niche (vertical orientation) and remove the corner shelves. When you use a sheet membrane like Kerdi, remodeling presents problems. But a liquid waterproofing as you used should not cause trouble. And having CPVC is very easy to change plumbing.

  • 3 years ago

    Doesn't the showerhead swivel to adjust the angle? Just angle it a bit so the water is going more to the middle of the shower.

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks all for the comments and advice! The contractor offered to redo it but said it will only move over by 1 inch so at this particular point in the project I just don't see it being worth it to change/move the plumbing. I also agree that once the shower glass goes in I will (hopefully) notice the offset plumbing a lot less. Fingers crossed nothing else major happens, this 4 month project has been a doozy!

  • 3 years ago
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    "Men, in general, don't care about symmetry or aesthetics for the most part. :("

    Umm, No. Just No.

    So, first issue is "centered on what?" Is that the entire wall where the faucets are - or is that the space defined by the interior of the shower. I can't really tell from the photos, but it almost looks centered on the interior space of the shower. Yes, the centerline of the drain and the faucet/shower head need to be on the same line.

    There should be a drawing, and it should be initialed. It should show the location of the faucets, shower head, etc. and where the centerline is.

    If you have questions, you need to get answers before the tile goes up. If he mumbled and you didn't understand, then the two of you didn't communicate.

    My guess is that the new centerline is blocked by that stud. Fixing it would require cutting the stud and re-framing that. It would also require some mud / paint in the hallway. Doable, but the scope of the project just got larger.

    The new centerline may also be blocked by a floor joist (the drain). If that's the case, it may get much more complicated.

    All of that should have been decided once the old tub was out and you could see what you were working with.

    I'm not saying the contractor was not at fault - he should know how these things go. But I also get the sense that clear communication wasn't happening - and that's on both of you. Drawings need to happen - or be updated - once you have done your demo.

  • 3 years ago

    Uhhhh, ya.... it's in the front of your mind and you feel a bit guilty for not calling him out on it in the first place. I get it. But as others have mentioned, it's hardly noticeable.

  • 3 years ago

    @Jake The Wonderdog You are very right, communication has been an issue & I take responsibility for my part. I am learning a LOT & now know that even if we think we've covered most everything....mistakes can & will still happen. This contractor is pretty old school, I've never gotten drawings fr him. Some emails but mostly texts, phone calls and in person decisions on the fly. I'd def do some things differently if I could rewind the clock! Overall, I'm happy w/ his work & with the subs he's brought in. Finally in the home stretch and things should be finishing up this month!