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Kitchen update limited budget UPDATED

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

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I OWN THIS town home which was a complete gut rehab 18 years ago. My mother lived there and left it to me. I have rented it for 8 years. I have never sold a property and both bathrooms and kitchens are dated now (and a bit worn).wish to upgrade but am nervous at the cost. I am already having the place patched and painted. What could be done with an additional 5-10K? (am I naive with costs rising so?).


Ideas:

The most expensive, I think, would be replacing floors and/or cabinets. If I left cabinets but (1) invested in floors would this do it? These photos don't show that the floor is beige, box store basic, and the grout now is darker. The kitchen floor continues into a bathroom and laundry so footprint is not small.

Someone suggested (2) removing fan and putting in new lighting...

(3) I've thought of changing countertop to white or something more contemporary?

Finally, since painting is already budgeted... what color will help modernize the oak cabinets?

Thanks to anyone with thoughts and experience!!



Comments (32)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    IMO the biggest bang for your buck would be new lighting . There is no way I would ever have only a center light and for sure not a fan in a kitchen. The easy way to do this is just get a nice 4 or 5 head LED track light to replace the one you have. I like 4000K LED bulbs they will make the kitchen look like a new space . I am asking you rent this space or you rent it out ? . This track is $90 then just change the bulbs to 4000K


    Jane Barrow thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 3 years ago

    Do you live here and pay rent OR do you own it and rent it out? Not your responsibility if you rent to do upgrades.

  • 3 years ago

    If this is a rental you own and will continue to rent to others, deep cleaning, fresh paint, and some pulls or knobs on the cabinets is all I would do on a limited budget unless something is broken.

    If you are renting from someone else, I would do nothing, not even paint. You ask the landlord to paint. You could also ask for knobs on the cabinets

  • 3 years ago

    The kitchen is in great condition for a rental, and some knobs and pulls would dress it up a bit. Nothing needs to be changed. Fresh paint would be great, a neutral color since you don’t know your tenants taste or color preferences. If the bathrooms need work, by all means fix them up.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    “I have rented this townhouse for 8 years”

    When I read that and the rest of the post, I thought, does she mean: (A) I just signed a lease and will be renting this townhouse for the next 8 years, (B) I signed a lease 8 years ago and have been renting this townhouse since then, C) I own this townhouse and am renting it to others for the next 8 years, or (D) I own this house, and have been renting it to others for the last 8 years and now have it off lease.

    Hard to advise you appropriately until you clear up what you meant.

    Jane Barrow thanked M Miller
  • 3 years ago

    I own this home and am now selling. I'm nervous about where to invest. I have EDITED my post to be more clear (sorry I confused everyone). Please review post again and thanks so much.

  • 3 years ago

    Since you are selling, get the tile floors cleaned by a tile floor cleaning pro- it will make a big difference. Change the fan to a light fixture. New off white paint can be chosen after you change the lighting. Talk to your agent to see if any more expensive changes will get you your money back in increased sale price or result in a faster sale that will save you enough carrying costs to break even. In my area, sellers usually recoup the cost of repairs, cleaning, and painting.

    Jane Barrow thanked apple_pie_order
  • 3 years ago

    I own this home and am now selling.

    If the photo you posted is a current photo, I would do absolutely nothing outside of cleaning if needed.

    I sure would not paint the cabinets--because, as a buyer, freshly painted cabinets for resale would turn me off. Because I would suspect that the cabinet finish has been ruined not knowing if they were properly prepped nor what kind of paint was used. I would be seeing a very expensive potential issue in the not too distant future.

    In the event that I planned to gut the kitchen anyway, I wouldn't like the idea of having to pay for an update wrapped up in the selling price for something that I planned to rip out anyway.

    But that is my perspective; other potential buyers might not see it that way.

    Jane Barrow thanked ci_lantro
  • 3 years ago

    I agree with deep cleaning and painting where necessary and nothing more. Everything in the kitchen is consistent looking now but if you do partial updates (like countertops), you're apt to end up with a hodge podge look which IMO is off putting to buyers. If the place is clean, many buyers will happily move in and update as time, budget, and taste allows over time.


    Even in the best of times, you will not get an immediate 100% return on investment for kitchen or bathroom updates unless you can DIY and you get good pricing on materials. A higher sales price is great for the agent whose commission will be higher but it's the net cost that you need to focus on.

    Jane Barrow thanked Linda
  • 3 years ago

    @Jane Barrow I woud do nothing more than deep clean, maybe paint, and make sure all of the light bulbs work. I just sold a condo in center city Philly. All I did was paint because it REALLY needed it. I thought it would take awhie because of higher interest rates. Nope! Two offers in one day, over asking and no inspection. I sold my mother's rowhome in northeast Philly last year. My brother smoked in it for years and I was prepared to have to remediate. Nope. Sold in 2 days for asking price, no inspection. Both homes were dated and not pristine but they were super clean.

    Jane Barrow thanked cheri127
  • 3 years ago

    M Miller is helping kids prep for the SATs. When in doubt, go with “C.”

    Jane Barrow thanked ShadyWillowFarm
  • 3 years ago

    Please - call a local realtor. That person will have data-driven advice geared to market conditions in your area. Do not give your town home away. Even in this condition, it would make a wonderful home for someone or a good investment for someone seeking a rental unit to buy.



    Don't settle. Find a realtor who will fight to get you the best price for your town home.

    Jane Barrow thanked cupofkindnessgw
  • 3 years ago

    A lot of people want to buy a home that has not been renovated because they want to be the one to choose everything. You said you were having things patched and painted. Besides that just declutter, clean like crazy, a little light staging with things that you already have, or leave it empty. Anything more than that, I don't think you'll get an offer that would pay you back for your expenses.


    My Dad sold his house a few years ago. A young inexperienced Realtor (my sister's friend) came over and by the time they finished walking the house, she had talked him into a full $250 K renovation. After she left, I talked to him and he decided to declutter, donate a lot, clean, get carpets and tile pro cleaned, touch up paint, wash house and driveway, tidy up the yard a little bit and replace any dead plants. All told he spent less than $5,000 which also included hiring a handyman with a trailer to haul stuff to the donation centers and recycling/dump. He sold the house in 1 day, multiple offers above asking. If you're not sure about your housing market, talk to an experienced Realtor about it, not a newbie.

    Jane Barrow thanked AJCN
  • 3 years ago

    Realtors are not always the experts. When we sold our house two years ago, our realtor initially wanted to list it for well below what we should have and insisted we do numerous repairs. Our asking price was 20% higher than her initial suggestion and it sold for 15% more than asking. I would clean it, paint as needed and list. If you don't get what you want after a month, consider doing some updating. Where are you located?

    Jane Barrow thanked cheri127
  • 3 years ago

    Do folks on this page know how I continue this post with updates and newer questions and pictures? I"m preparing to sell a row house and comments so far have been SO helpful!!! Thank you. As I go through this in upcoming weeks I'd love to continue a thread. Do I EDIT my main text. Do I DELETE and start again each time with same subject? is the Comments box here (below "featured answer") the correct place to continue? Its not clear to me. Thanks EVERYONE!

  • 3 years ago

    You can certainly continue with updates.

    If you have an entirely different question, then start a new thread.

    Jane Barrow thanked eld6161
  • 3 years ago

    Update: Folks seem to think scrub kitchen clean and limit investment (thanks). Several folks said take down ceiling fan (which would be really hard to clean!). Should I put newer ceiling fan up or a decorative light? I've been looking at IKEA and FB Marketplace. But all large 'chandelier types' float over a table, I noticed, and this location is center of kitchen, between skylights. Whats too big, whats not big enough? Any thoughts to assist?




  • 3 years ago

    I think something big and fun would be great between the skylights. I see a bunch of cans too so it seems like there should be plenty of ‘functional’ lighting. And I assume most showings would be during the day and lack of light shouldn’t be a problem. Also, if the cans are gross and old, or just don’t give off enough light homedepot sells decent replacement cans right now $18 for 4. So cheap and easy light upgrade. I also agree with others that say a realtor can give you lots of advice especially about target market so you can figure out what those folks are looking for.

    Jane Barrow thanked suzannetx
  • 3 years ago

    Your question is about fan replacement - should it be a light fixture only or a new fan. I’ve read, in this forum, that ceiling fans don’t belong in kitchens. Don’t know about that myself but maybe applies if kitchen is a closed room & all the fan does is blow grease & cooking smells around. This kitchen looks like part of an open floor plan. Is there another ceiling fixture that can be seen from the kitchen? If yes, think about coordinating a new kitchen light or changing both to match. Not a hanging light but a flush or semi flush mount light. We’re not talking high end $$ lights either - just big box nice that won’t make buyers say - “that light / fan is first thing to replace”. I agree with all the advice to just clean & make sure all systems work. The kitchen looks like a nice clean layout with lots of natural light & access to outside - easy sell if the rest of space is as clean.

    Jane Barrow thanked KW PNW Z8
  • 3 years ago

    Be a lot easier to get a ladder or step stool to clean the fan rather than buying and installing a new light fixture.

    Jane Barrow thanked ShadyWillowFarm
  • 3 years ago

    With a ladder, a swiffer duster or vacuum attachment, and then a rag with pledge all-surface, or a mild all purpose cleaner you can get that ceiling fan clean. Easy and cheap. I wouldn't replace it. Let the new owners do it bc you don't even know if they would like the replacement light you choose.

    Jane Barrow thanked AJCN
  • 3 years ago

    Forget about replacing the ceiling fan. No need.

    Jane Barrow thanked cpartist
  • 3 years ago

    Paint a neutral color. I would think cream since you have warmer tones and hire a crew to do a super deep clean. If there are any obvious broken stuff like switch plates or whatever, then replace because people will assume a place hasn't been maintained well if they see broken stuff.


    I live in a high rise and recently two almost identical apartments were sold - same size and layout and both were going to need serious updating.


    One person did nothing but paint and got $50,000 more than the person who did nothing. Both places really needed gut remodels in kitchen and baths and the one that sold for $50,000 more even had terrible water damage on the floors so that it would have to be replaced quite obviously.


    You are never going to be able to actually upgrade so that it looks 2023 so why bother to do anything since you are going to attract a buyer who either wants to redo to their own taste OR who is happy to get a functional home for less money than it would be if it were remodeled.

    Jane Barrow thanked Helen
  • 3 years ago

    Leave the fan. The buyer won't care.


    Jane Barrow thanked cheri127
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    IMO good lighting makes everything look better and so easy to change from fan to track . As for the rest I agree leave it for the next guy to do what ever they want you will not get 100% of what ever you spend but clean and claen again and paint for sure both pretty cheap fixes .

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    The fan is fine. If someone renovates the kitchen, it will be replaced anyway. No light fixture is going to significantly update that space. Better lighting isn't going to highlight anything in an updated way. Save your money.

    It is a decent looking kitchen and not everyone actually does updates when they purchase a home. Not everyone can buy and then sink $$ into upgrades. Not everyone (those who don't hang out on home decor sites) has to have the latest and greatest fixtures and features. Many people want a clean, functional home, within their budget, and your townhome might fit the bill for many of them, just as it is.

  • 3 years ago

    Agree - clean and uncluttered. You have a good amount of storage and that's a huge plus - play to THAT. Don't change anything. New buyer could keep cabinets, add hardware, MAYBE appliances and counters - but for selling - you are right to do what you are doing.

    Jane Barrow thanked just_janni
  • 3 years ago

    I was so happy to find a house that had not been remuddled. I was able to remodel the house to my specs without having to rip out someone else's choices. We gutted down to the studs. And now I have the house I wanted. Just clean, de-clutter, and clean again.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Great advice, @Louise Smith!

  • 3 years ago

    I couldn't agree more. I loved the house I bought. They did nothing but clear and clean it. It was spotless with NO updates.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    The greatest strategy is to pay attention to the tiny things. Start by repainting and replacing the hardware on your cabinets. Your kitchen's appearance and atmosphere can be entirely changed by doing this alone. To make the room appear brighter and more contemporary, you could also add brand-new lighting fixtures like pendant lights or under cabinet lights.