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Mini Split Setup Wrong?

3 years ago

We just completed a two story addition off our Berkeley CA home, the HVAC company we went with setup a dual mini split, with a ducted unit in the attic upstairs and a ductless unit downstairs in the new large open family room. There is one outdoor unit powered both.

It’s honestly been a mess with this company, they have been out 7 times to try to get this right.

The issue is that if we have the upstairs unit on cool and the downstairs off, it still send refrigerant to the off downstairs unit, it cracks, pops, freezes inside, condensation builds up and leaks.

This morning we woke up to a pool of water on our new floors!!

They are saying the outside unit is a bit oversized and it has to send refrigerant to both units at the same time.

This just seems totally wrong, did they just set this up wrong, are we supposed to have two outside units, one for each?

Any pro tips? We have lost faith that this small local crew knows what they are doing.

Comments (10)

  • 3 years ago

    If the downstairs unit (fan?) is off but the system is still sensing refrigerant to it, then you have a major problem! If they can't fix it, then they need to rip it out and start over with two separate, correctly-sized systems. 99% of installers have no clue how to set up zoned systems and minisplits just add to this dire situation.

  • 3 years ago

    The condensation from the mini split head is supposed to drain to the outdoors. The head is usually mounted on an exterior wall and the drain line is designed to go straight out with a downward pitch. In your case the drain line needs to traverse an interior wall and make its way to the outdoors or some drainage point. The drain line has not been installed correctly and the condensate is overflowing onto the floor. This drainage problem is independent of having one or two outdoor condensers in my opinion.

    I am not a mini split expert, but the head should not be making popping and cracking signs. Were you given an option installing one versus two outdoor condensers?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    While we can't rule out a problem with the drain line, the OP relates that the evaporator is freezing up. If the coil freezes up, melting ice can put water outside the drain pan's ability to catch it. Ditto for the condensation which is evident on the exterior of the indoor unit; that will drip onto the floor.

  • 3 years ago

    It appears there are several serious problems and the installer has not been able to resolve them in 7 attempts.

  • 3 years ago

    It seems to be condensation and drain pipe is likely fine IMO (at least we want to start with that freezing up while off as the primary issue)

  • 3 years ago

    We had a lengthy discussion several months ago about a homeowner complaining about mini split head installed on an interior wall and condensation dripping on the floor below it. It is something that should be investigated.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Unlike the post mike_home referred to above, the OP's condensation problems are not due to condensate produced as a result of normal dehumidification in air conditioning mode. You can see condensation on the outside of the unit which is not normal; nor is freezing of the indoor coil. For a multi-head/multi cassette mini-split system, refrigerant should not be delivered to a zone not calling for it. I'd check to make sure the plumbing and control wiring are installed correctly, then I'd check for a problem valve or a control issue.

    The company which installed the unit should have access to troubleshooting help either direct from the factory or through their local distributor. Sounds like they'll need it.

  • 3 years ago

    MnM 01 we are experiencing something similar...do you have any more insight on what the wiring issue was? Not sure if you were experiencing the same but when our downstairs unit stops working (since it froze up) the upstairs unit stops providing cool air as well. We have to wait until the downstairs unit defrosts before anything starts working again.

  • 3 years ago

    I am not sure the exact issue, but it should not call for coolant unless on and should not be freezing over, when it freezes over like that, it has a safety I think that sends a signal to stop sending coolant so that is why it likely shuts both down. Get someone that knows how to fix it out ASAP before damaging it.

    Is the unit that is freezing over off or on when it freezes?